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Grinding up pirate standings.
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Steve Spooner
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-04-16 15:44:23 UTC
A plethora of Caldari Navy missions have dropped my standings with pirate factions to abysmal levels that even social skills aren't bring up. Are there missions that you can receive from pirate factions at very low standings? Or am I barred from running missions for the pirate factions?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-04-16 15:51:26 UTC
do the pirate epic arcs, careful though since they take you through pretty popular places in null.

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sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-04-16 17:11:19 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
do the pirate epic arcs, careful though since they take you through pretty popular places in null.


He won't have the standing for lvl3s.

You'll be stuck grinding lvl1s until faction standing is higher than -2.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2013-04-16 19:48:07 UTC
One of the social skills, think it was diplomacy will help if you have bad standings to a faction. Might be just enough to get to run some higher level missions..
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-04-16 23:35:40 UTC
Cage Man wrote:
One of the social skills, think it was diplomacy will help if you have bad standings to a faction. Might be just enough to get to run some higher level missions..


It'll disappear the moment your base standing turns positive. What you want is Criminal Connections.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2013-04-17 03:28:39 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Cage Man wrote:
One of the social skills, think it was diplomacy will help if you have bad standings to a faction. Might be just enough to get to run some higher level missions..


It'll disappear the moment your base standing turns positive. What you want is Criminal Connections.


Yep, but it will get you missioning for the faction at least..
Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#7 - 2013-04-17 05:14:57 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
do the pirate epic arcs, careful though since they take you through pretty popular places in null.


He won't have the standing for lvl3s.

You'll be stuck grinding lvl1s until faction standing is higher than -2.


There are starting agents for all the Pirate arcs for empire factions. (example, angel arc has minmatar and amarr navy starting agents) Do the pirate arcs. It will save you an eternity of grinding lvl 1's, and they're fun also.
Turelus
Utassi Security
#8 - 2013-04-17 10:11:24 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
do the pirate epic arcs, careful though since they take you through pretty popular places in null.


He won't have the standing for lvl3s.

You'll be stuck grinding lvl1s until faction standing is higher than -2.

Pirate epic arcs can be started via Empire factions. So if you have good Caldari standings you can start the Gurista one.

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-04-18 07:35:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
What level of standings you need to start pirate epic arc? Would 3.0+ (after modification by Connections) with respective Empire for the lack of corp standings suffice? Obviously I'm talking about Empire "proxies" here.

Another question on skills. Description of Connections indicates that it should probably affect pirate factions (they are NPCs, aren't they?), but does it? If it does, what's the point of Criminal Connections skill?

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2013-05-03 03:18:52 UTC
Pirate epic arcs are my business. Have a look at the posting thread linked below. It is my marketing thread but the first few postings contain a fair bit of the basic background info you might find useful.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-05-03 04:24:32 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
What level of standings you need to start pirate epic arc? Would 3.0+ (after modification by Connections) with respective Empire for the lack of corp standings suffice? Obviously I'm talking about Empire "proxies" here.

Another question on skills. Description of Connections indicates that it should probably affect pirate factions (they are NPCs, aren't they?), but does it? If it does, what's the point of Criminal Connections skill?

Yes, above +3.00 Faction standing with the Empire Factions will allow access to the level 3 Pirate Epic Arcs.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Epic_mission_arcs

Connections skill affects Friendly NPC's whereas Criminal Connections affects criminal NPCs.



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Hiob Miromme
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-05-04 19:06:29 UTC
I started doing L2 security missions to earn some ISK and have read that I shoul always decline faction kill missions. Does is also aply to pirate factions? I asking cause there arent many completly neutral missions out there and most of the time i just fly from one station to another to find the proper offer. Should I try to keep good standings with pirate factions or it doesnt really matter?
Demos Sema
Sema Holdings
#13 - 2013-05-09 15:28:54 UTC
no, if you are doing security (and you should be) you will either faction kills or pirate faction kills 90% of the time. In general it is more useful to be neurtal with all the empire factions then with all the pirate factions. If you are missioning in a particular area you should only get pirate kill missions for a few of the pirate factions.

Also remember that the Epic Arcs give a huge 30% standing increase as opposed to the Empire arch which give 10% and the SoE arc that gives 7%.

In fact if you do choose to do missions for pirate factions you will likely have to sacrifice your standing with an empire faction.