Test Server Feedback

I have kind of an unusual setup. I use an art tablet for eve instead of a mouse. It works very well and saves my wrist. When I click on the direction scanner button, radial menu comes up, click, it goes to the moon scanner. To get to the D scan section, I have to click the d scan button move my mouse up to the right, then back down to click the d scan button on the radial menu. The reason for this is because the D scan button is lower on the screen, so it is down for the mouse.

(As an aside. I can't use the tablet for FPS games. Move it to far to the left or right and it spins infinitely for the same reason.)

I know it's a weird case. I think an option to click the button, rather than hold it, would fix the issue. Not sure if you would do that for a very small portion of player base. Right now I would go nuts trying to use the dscan tool. Regardless of my setup, I severely dislike radial menus for other reasons. I digress.

Im fine with the mouse slowing down so I dont inadvertantly choose to warp to a planet at 100 instead of 50 because the mouse overshot the amount. I actually like the fact the mouse is a bit slower, when using those range options it really helps you focus on a set range rather then overshooting it, backtracking and undershooting and trying to get the perfect range because the mouse is so sensitive it moves fast.

I do agree with opening the scanner via the icon in the hud, it should be like other uses of the menu. With the other uses, you have to click and hold and then move the mouse before the menu is displayed, the HUD icon for opening the scanner needs to reflect this as well.

They have change their position as this is a new menu.
We are very aware of muscle memory and therefore 6 of the 8 options in the menu are always the same (except for your ship) and never change position, but these are options the are very frequently used

• Warp To
• Keep at Range
• Target
• Align/approach
• Show info
• Orbit

The top option is always a "primary" action we have selected for that category/group/type of item, options as dock, open cargo, board ship, view in planet mode. etc.
The last option is the "extra" option. There we put options that don't quiet belong to main menu, but are handy to have easy access to. We are very selective when putting stuff there, and want to keep the list of options there short. In the case of the extra option layer, the position of the options is not as fixed, as the list of options is not always the same.

You own ship is a special little snowflake, as it it has different options than other ships. From it you can set the default ranges for orbit, keep at range and warp to. And it has "stop ship" instead of an inactive "board ship" option.

The default can be up to 100km, but the range in the menu itself only goes to 30km I think.
To set the default, click on your own ship and drag as you wanted to orbit it.

The radial menu should always have the same 7 options and then the primary action. The "+" should then have all the "extra options". We want to have the menu consistent and not to be messing with peoples head by changing it, so the extra stuff that is handy is put in the "+". That layer has room to expand if we decide we want more options there, and we don't really want to put "save location" at 3 o'clock and then have to move it in the next release when we decide that "add to overview"(or whatever) should also be an extra option.

If the menu would work like the right click menu, as in if you are not over the buttons nothing happens, it would not really gesture based like it's designed to be. The big point of it is that you don't have to hit the exact buttons, just in the direction. I believe you can kill the radial menu by right clicking.

I closes it, alright, but it also engages the selected command. I would prefer if it would only close the menu.

When I click on an item in the overview it selects it, and i have to hold the left click button down for a sec before the radial menu pops up. I think that is working correctly; however, the button next to the HUD for the scanner doesnt operate on this principle. When one is used to just simply clicking one time to open the scanner window, it is a bit clumsy to realize that when you clicked intead of the window opening, a menu pops up with choices. I think it should work like the other parts of the radial menu where you need to click and hold the mouse button to get the menu to pop up.

... Or you can also hold down Ctrl and left clic to target bad people... Why do you want to bother with a cursor move + left clic hold/release in addition ?

EDIT : Random thought, why not allowing us to have a shortcut that acts as a clic to instantly open the radial menu ? Like wheel clic or custom button clic ?

Currently you're suggesting shift + clic.
I'm not suggesting mousewheel hold down + left clic of course, I'm suggesting a simple mousewheel clic that would act as your shift + clic.

All right, you got me

In this situation I recognize that this new radial menu is useful (and this change would be worth it anyway, just for the fact of being able to set a custom orbit / keep a range / warp to distance "on the fly").
Yet, if we were able to have another shortcut acting as a clic (as said in my "EDIT :" above), it would be even more awesome than having to hold down a new key. (Of course it probably represents a lot of work for a minimal addition. Of what... 0.5 second-gain ?)

Kinda cool but i dont like the mouse snapping back to center and you can only drag the mouse for half the screen.