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Need some advice about my first alt

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AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#21 - 2013-05-08 15:38:40 UTC
Train it to either fly a Tengu or a Carrier (Archon/Thanatos) maybe even a jump frieghter then sell it for a good amount of isk, retire from missions and take up PVP. That is literally the only thing you should be doing with your first alt, and your second and possibly your third alt until you need to start thinking about having a cap character and cyno alt for yourself. You will not regret doing this i promise you. Its a really passive and easy way to make isk and fund the good stuff
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#22 - 2013-05-08 23:13:21 UTC
Solidpoint wrote:
Gogela wrote:
Solidpoint wrote:
Hi All,

I am playing eve for 2 months nows now and I want to start an Alt for support. Primarily goal: missions, and in the future exploration (wormholes maybe) and incursions. My main character has drake for now and within 30 days a Tengu. What is the smartest thing to do with my alt: train it the same way (Caldari / Missiles) or would it be smart to train it different?

I'm going to take the rare step here of giving you actual advice. Your alt is everything your main is not. Keep his/her sec status over 0.0. You should train your alt into a jump freighter immediately, and get your market skills up there while you're at it. This will give your main the lateral to evolve without thought to consequences. -10.0 sec? no problem. Your alt moves your **** and sells your loot. Getting an alt is the most liberating thing you can do for your main. When your main is plundering in null or gatecamping in lowsec, your alt can move the loot and provide resupply wherever you need it. Transport ships help. At some point your alt will need to fly a cloaky nullified T3. That's perfect logistics. A Cloaky nulled T3 can go anywhere it wants to. No fear of camps or bubbles if you aren't retar***. Then, once those things are trained, go for exploration skills and logistics, so your alt can scout out sites and actually provide active support for your main. I mean, WTF do i know about eve, but this is definitely the way to go with alt #1 in my view. Your alt is your ultimate bi*** and you need to train him/her to that end.

Just my 2 ISK....


Wow thanks. That is good use of an alt :-) Any race suggestions then?

Not really. I would pick the same race your main is though... that way if you need to hand off a ship there's a better chance both your main AND alt can fly it.

Signatures should be used responsibly...

Posta Wifda Mosta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-05-08 23:29:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Posta Wifda Mosta
My first alt was a logistics pilot, armor logi to be more exact. But my main was flying Gallente armor tanks so the armor logi fit in. I
then trained my main to provide a bit of support (remote reppers) to my logi incase she got primaried. Even if you train all the way in to logistics you can still cross train the pilot to be a hybrid combat/logistics. I could do all kinds of stuff with my Domi and Onerios combo, in time I added a thrid alt then a 4th....... am at 11 now with a pretty good spider tank setup with combat pilots if needed.

The is nothing better then to be in a pvp fight and your enemies think you are toast 2v1 they mock you in true EVE fassion. You uncloak your logi at 65km and start repping. They go after your logi but it has a awesome tank on it and your main can support it if needed. Soon you see an explosion, guick get your tackle on the other ship and you will get to see another explosion. Victory!

Spend a few buck to make a 3rd and 4th account, train a couple traders on them, when they are trained well in the art of trade transfer them to you main and 1st alt account. Make profit to support your escapades in space.

Skys the limit.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#24 - 2013-05-08 23:44:51 UTC
Train it exactly the same as your main. When it has the skills you want and are comfortable with, sell your main.

Then pocket the 5 billion or so and either do the same thing again or buy a better character from some dweeb desperate to sell.

That's how I started anyway. Once I hit 100 billion or so, I started my own little corp with no worries that I couldn't afford to lose what I fly.

Mr Epeen Cool
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#25 - 2013-05-09 00:22:03 UTC
One word: Falcon.

Nothing provides that OMG-WTF-GTFO like that ship!

Also a nice stepping-stone for the Tengu, because two of them are rather impressive.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#26 - 2013-05-09 00:46:10 UTC
Obviously there's two main types of alts.

Same account alts are mostly useful for science and manufacturing jobs and this can be lucrative if you can lose two month's training on the main. Very lucrative. Also this can be used for some logistical tasks like trips to trade hubs if your main is kill-on-sight for faction police or large player alliances.

Different account alts let you play the two characters simultaneously if your computer can handle it (the tech requirements aren't onerous for dual-boxing but if you are still on an old, old computer designed for XP they may be an issue).

Off-account alts are mandatory for capital ship pilots in most cases (you need cynos you can absolutely trust, and I'm not even sure you'd want to trust that to an RL significant other let alone an in-game 'friend'). They can also be used as scouts, logistics, extra firepower, probing, or for lots of other trickery.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#27 - 2013-05-09 00:46:33 UTC
Akali Kuvakei wrote:
Buy a cap pilot and move to null. You will get sick of eve very soon if all you do is missions. Come fight other pilots, that's what eve is really about. Not shooting red crosses



Or shoot blues.

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OfBalance
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-05-09 00:58:34 UTC
Solidpoint wrote:
I am playing eve for 2 months nows now and I want to start an Alt for support.


Chances are you don't need and won't fully utilize any kind of alt.

HTH
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#29 - 2013-05-09 01:10:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Setaceous
The only reason I started an alt was as a hauler to move the enormous amount of crap that I've accumulated.







Oh, and this character has random skills all over the damned place, based on my n00b decisions several years ago to just pick skills that "sounded good", so i wanted another character that I could build "properly".
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#30 - 2013-05-09 02:04:30 UTC
Solidpoint wrote:
Hi All,

I am playing eve for 2 months nows now and I want to start an Alt for support. Primarily goal: missions, and in the future exploration (wormholes maybe) and incursions. My main character has drake for now and within 30 days a Tengu. What is the smartest thing to do with my alt: train it the same way (Caldari / Missiles) or would it be smart to train it different?


I have an alt.... but she pissed me off one time, and I set her to red. Now we fight.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-05-09 05:27:36 UTC
Solidpoint wrote:
I am playing eve for 2 months nows now and I want to start an Alt for support.


Just ask yourself: What in EVE Online requires the most interaction with other players or would benefit the most from interaction with others?

Whatever that action is, that's what you want to train your alt to do. Just bear in mind that your first alt won't be enough to completely insulate you from human interaction in the game, not at first, anyway.

Now, you can generalize that first alt, in which case it may be a few months before he/she/it has the efficiency in all the tasks you want him/her/it to perform so as to reduce human-to-human interaction by a noticeable amount. The other option is to launch right into alt #2, alt #3, alt #4, etc., etc., etc. If you want to do that, if you have the commitment for that (and the hardware setup and bankroll), then each of those alts will be ready to perform their task much sooner, since their training will be much more focused on the relevant task you want them to perform, rather than all that extraneous **** like flying a spaceship and whatnot.

The problem you will run into with having a swarm of alts is that at any given time, only a few of those alts will be useful. If you are ok with this inefficiency, then that's fine. If you aren't, then, what you can do is to have other people play on those alts whenever you are not using them, preferably having them perform the very same tasks that you would be performing on the alt. This way, even when you need the alt for something, you will be able to operate it with verbal and written commands, rather than having to log into the account directly and "play" on the alt. The alt will essentially run itself. You just have to convince the other person to run it for you, which isn't actually that hard. Believe it or not, some people will take the initiative of starting the alt for you, paying for it, training it, and learning to use it. The only downside is that whole "interacting" thing you have to do with these people that run your alts for you . . . and some of them require ISK or favors in return for the service they are performing. Some of them might also be under the misguided impression that your main is THEIR alt. (They might even try to pod you if you don't do what they want.) You just have to work around this.

A great side benefit of this is that once these people are funding and running your alts for you, you are free to have a virtually unlimited number of them.
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