Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Navy drake doesn't really need a second web (or a TP for that matter) in my opinion. It's a good deal faster than the old drake and the dual missile bonus makes it able to hit out a lot farther and do significantly more damage to small targets anyways; even if something that you webbed counterwebs you and starts to pull range, you should be able to kill him before overheated warp disruptor range runs out.

There is also a slight error in your tank calculations, as the drake resist bonus is getting nerfed to 4% per level in Odyssey, which after Level 5 gang bonuses (NOT warfare links, just the passive 10% shield amount; who flies without someone in squad command anywhere?) means:
EHP: 78,708 vs 65,864 with 3 tackle mods each
94,419 vs. 80,857 with 3 tank mods each

I also feel that you're underestimating the ability to change to a perfect damage type whenever, instead of being nearly locked into that kinetic trap the standard drake has. Shooting a 2x EANM Navy Brutix with rage HAM for example, the old drake does a maximum of 203 raw HP/s while the navy drake with explosive ammo is able to manage 248 HP/s. It's a similar story against a Talos or a lot of other T1 shield tankers where navy drake is able to pound into that EM hole without losing damage. It is true that this isn't always the case, but these mostly concern Amarr armor tankers and the obvious T2 minmatar kinetic hole and I think in practice the N Drake should be able to apply more damage to its targets.

Thing is, with decent skills & a target painter for example, your Javelin HAMs are going to toast frigs. From 40km onwards. And as the speed goes, i guess at least I won't fit shield rigs, unless i bring it to a fleet (and even then it's debateable.)


As prices go:

with 100k LP + a BC hull, you're not going to see these ships on the cheap end. More like Tier 2 BS are currently, probably slightly below (120-130m)

1- WHY ?

ISK SINK
Did you saw PLEX price inflation? TO MUCH ISK on the market
Pre-Nerf Cane for 150M no problem for zillion isk players.

I like the iteration of the Harby.

A Blaster myrm would be better, Brutix hull must sell?

Drake .. ??? rage hams better applied DPS.. kiting ... keep in mind rage shorter range..

Cane - micro oven - HNI

Myrmidon is vertical ! Screw brutix and it's 3 other hulls. Give us a second Myrm hull !!! We demand equality !!!

You'll need to train the cruiser skills.

Try reading a dev post. They have made about a hundred of them about this subject explaining in such detail even a mentally disabled person would get it by now...

If you can fly it now, you will get it grandfathered. If you can't fly it, train the prereqs needed and you will get the skills.

I have an idea. Scrap the new navy BCs and give us back our canes.

OP ships are bad for overall game balance... Even morons are capable of understanding this

Canes were never OP in the first place. I wish forums would not be filled with idiots who simply spout of talking points, and repeat lines that are not based in fact

The cane was OP first of since it was a teir 2 battle cruiser they were all good, 2nd it had been desgned to be able to fit artillery which the game designers caused to cost to much fitting, so when cane pilots switched ot autocannons they had ton of fitting left, 3rd it had my 6 guns equal your 7 or eight and take no cap, so it had 2 aux slots with fitting and cap to uses them, 4th it Minnie so it was the quickest, 5th it had the most reliable useful wep system (capless, significant damage projection,even when not the best at a range, and damage selectable) , 6th it had a true flexibility to shield tank or armor tank.

All these added up to to make it the best of the best class in the game (at least until the potentially overpowered teir 3 BC).

The only question will the already nerfed to blanced ship be forced to a lower rung by the TE nerf ?


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