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Is Eve a young mans game?

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Jason Justice Justice
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2013-05-06 23:25:33 UTC
17 here. Probably the youngest person to post yet. I would like to think I'm better off for playing this game, but who knows? We will see in ten years. Big smile
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#62 - 2013-05-07 00:07:52 UTC
Kult Altol wrote:
If eve didn't exist I wonder what all the old farts be doing. World of Warcraft?

Similar threads on WoWs GD reveal that the ages of players of that game do tend to be older anyway. Or that could simply be a forum thing.
Octoven
Stellar Production
#63 - 2013-05-07 05:12:54 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Octoven wrote:

... so I submit to you that EVE is Real(tm).

FTFY


Indeed lol thanks for that! Big smile
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#64 - 2013-05-07 05:19:42 UTC
Jason Justice Justice wrote:
17 here. ]


Get off my lawn ya durn whippersnapper!!




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Flux Raider
Quantshure
#65 - 2013-05-07 05:55:59 UTC
The best thing about eve to me is the depth it has. The worst thing is that it heavily rewards scammers and penalizes honest play. There are so many liars, cheaters, and thieves so you have to basically trust no one. I don't think it's only young players, though.
Helgrind Wolf
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#66 - 2013-05-07 06:03:21 UTC
Eve is just a game but the people are still real, granted it being a game allows you to take on a personality that you might have never gotten to experience RL. I'm 25 myself but I have players that span from 19 years old to 50. They span form being a simple college student to ex marines to being a baker in spain. You get all sorts and that's half the fun.
Josef Djugashvilis
#67 - 2013-05-07 07:08:12 UTC
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
The older I get, the harder it is to deal with other people's bull****.

I wonder how that fares for my EvE career...


I am the opposite.

The older I get, the more tolerant I become of people in general.

Unless it involves the Tory party, then I want to gank them all.Smile

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Signal11th
#68 - 2013-05-07 07:24:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Signal11th
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
The older I get, the harder it is to deal with other people's bull****.

I wonder how that fares for my EvE career...


I am the opposite.

The older I get, the more tolerant I become of people in general.

Unless it involves the Tory party, then I want to gank them all.Smile



I am similar although opposite as well,

The older I get the less tolerant I get of people especially if it involves the Labour Party then I want to gank them all. I've only just recovered after the last time they screwed the country up.....sorry got elected.

I'm 40 btw and I find most people on here are of the older ilk.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!

Giovanni erkelens2
Violent Trans Matching
Neon Nightmares
#69 - 2013-05-07 11:27:30 UTC
Jason Justice Justice wrote:
17 here. Probably the youngest person to post yet. I would like to think I'm better off for playing this game, but who knows? We will see in ten years. Big smile

u just got beated man. i am 16 :D
thorgil
State War Academy
Caldari State
#70 - 2013-05-07 12:09:15 UTC
I started eve 7 years ago, i was 13 .

Of course it gave me something that others teens didn't have. I could speak every day with grown up players , learning a lot about eve and IRL early.

It also gave me a good english level and some leadership skills, and it's something that helped me quite good.

On the other side, i've spend so much time on this game that i guess i missed a lot of things IRL. But that's how eve is : if you don't invest, you'll learn nothing.
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2013-05-07 12:31:40 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
...For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?...
I didn't have a PC in the 1970's... Blink

Anyway, I don't think Eve would have had much of an effect on me as a teenager, too much real life stuff did.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#72 - 2013-05-07 12:36:13 UTC
not the oldest in the thread, but older than the OP
Salamia Taivaalla
Fistful of Finns
#73 - 2013-05-07 13:26:01 UTC
I myself am 31. Started as a 26 year old youngster. I have been diagnosed with serious depression.

Eve to me has given stability to life. No matter what **** happends RL, I can always return to my homies ingame. Even stuff changes ingame, it's not too bad, since its a corporation I run, so I have often quite a big word to say about the changes. EvE also hase improved and helped keep the skill of english language. Even in Finland we are quite well educated, but beacause I am forced to use english on daily basis, it keeps improving on daily basis.

I have always asked people joining my merry band of finns of their age when joining. At the moment FISTN average age is 32. Why this makes an interesting data, is that I run a finnish only corporation and I would guess that I have around 1/3rd of the active finnish players in corp. Maybe like 25%. So the average age propably wouldn't change a lot, even if all the rest of finns would join in.

But in the end, I keep EvE as a game to patient, tolerant and thinking people, no matter of age nor sex. An almost unique feature in modern gaming eve gives is that it forces the player to use his/hers brain on a level very few games nowdays do. Ofcourse we do have the ones who dont think a bit aswell, but they tend to end up on horrible horrible killmails - loosing side.

Masumi SinTe
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#74 - 2013-05-07 14:02:42 UTC
26 here, so i'm kinda young, but.....

Right now i have a girlfriend (Also a gamer) i've living with for the past 4 years (I'll marry soon TM). I have an stable job, i have a degree....and...you know what, i've been a gamer (And pretty hardcore) all my life.


The thing is to balance out the things you do in your life. If you use 8 hours per day to study, then go play Eve if you want! But don't play Eve for 14 hours and don't study at all. Same applies to job, first things first....BUT....


Don't think you are losing your life for playing a video game (Specially with this heavy social interaction). What are you missing ? Getting drunk with RL people ? How much different is the feeling of getting drunk in corp comms with some mining friends while you shoot at space rocks ?, shootting space rocks and talking to friends in corp while drinking a beer it's no different than being in a bar, drinking a beer with your friends while watching girls *sses (As long as the feeling you get it's the same, the fullfilment in the social interaction, it's ok)


You don't lose your life for playing a video game, you lose your life if you don't share it with anybody besides yourself. We live to share things with other important people, not to be alone. As long as you can remember that and keep your head clear, you won't be "Wasting" your life by playing a video game.
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#75 - 2013-05-07 14:54:14 UTC
Female here, so I'm going to have to disagree that this is a "young man's" game.
Lenda Shinhwa
Bad Touches
#76 - 2013-05-07 15:22:04 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
The older I get, the harder it is to deal with other people's bull****.

I wonder how that fares for my EvE career...


I am the opposite.

The older I get, the more tolerant I become of people in general.

Unless it involves the Tory party, then I want to gank them all.Smile


I find reality TV shows have made me far more tolerant and less willing to impose my views on others. Why? Because they have shown me that people live some crazy ass lives that can't even imagine are on the same planet as me, much less my country. So I definitely have no business telling them how to live those crazy ass lives.

Although I don't know what a Tory is. I'd still gank a big government politician, or any Democrat, any time... assuming they play Eve.
Radamant Nemess
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
#77 - 2013-05-07 15:58:40 UTC
geriatric f**kfest mate... and i`m part of it...

i can fail at any speed you like

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#78 - 2013-05-07 16:23:51 UTC
My experience in eve has taught me me many skills, like ignoring my family, trolling (unsucessfully) people in the forums and in game, opening convos with conspiracy theorists in Amarr begging people to stay out because we support slavery, learning of all the strange diseases some people have on them and forces them to play eve and other mmos almost 24/7 , thinly veiled attempts at setting sexual RL encounters, overtly blatant attempts at pimping my partner in webcam for isks (you know who you are you pervert) , people selling me online medications, people asking me about how much I charged for virtual seances to speak with dead ones, Nigerian Scams , malicious links, pornstar knowledge as I see ships with strange names, people wanting to scam me and others in myriad ways, lame drones that die in 3 shots and they cost too much to replace, angry people shouting in comms that turned me off for ages and made me go mute on field ops back in the day, the loss of a beloved alliance and how I still can not get over it and being dirt poor once with all ships locked in a enemy station.

I mean really, why do I even need to go out to the streets? EVE > Real Life, and I think , being a bit more serious, young people here if starting, like all other online games, need a parent or tutor counseling telling them how to behave and what to expect, else we might get maladjusted beings that have issues coping with life.

Asocial and Sadistic entities currently dwelling within the EVE cluster were born broken anyway, so they have a nice spot here Big smile

I also , like others, believe EVE is a kind of mindset game. That´s what has kept me hooked for so long (8 years and counting!), no other game has kept me here. I sometimes go away, but always return, nothing out there beats the feeling EVE can give.

So more than a "young man" game, it essentially embodies the "niche" game spot.

I have , and I am not making this up, invited over 50 people to the game, some of them having given "codes" , others the link for the trial, others the now extinct 5$ steam offers, for the past 8 years. NONE of them remain here , and only a handful did stay for more than the 2 week trial.

This game is not really for everyone, neither young men or old men.

There´s something "unique" , like the french say a "je ne sais quoi" quality that makes you attracted to such an impersonal game.

You can even see the backlash from the NEX store, the not so delicate attempt at trying to bring other types of people here, that actually shocked the core userbase and even CCP itself.

EVE´s sandbox and style is their biggest boon and greatest bane.

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco

Karle Tabot
State War Academy
Caldari State
#79 - 2013-05-07 19:50:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Karle Tabot
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
I am 40 years old, my goals have always been about seeing and doing as much as possible while here.

You can meet a lot of people in Eve and have no idea who they are like physically. They could be very fat, or very skinny, or old or young, or deaf, or rich or poor. They could speak with a lisp or have a cleft pallet or perhaps be physically hideous but have a wonderful voice.

Just today I met two men who are much younger than I would have guessed. I have fleeted with them before and spoken with them on the forums. Both are FC's and wear the mask of command well. They each have some rough edges and breaks that will no doubt smooth out over time as such things do. But the experience got me to thinking.

How is Eve different from the RW? We interact with others and learn from our mistakes and apply that knowledge to future pursuits. The way to be successful in Eve, as in RL, is to organize people and to motivate others. In this way Eve is a great training ground and a terrific experience.

Has Eve helped you become more confident? Learn speaking skills and how to think under preasure? Do you consider Eve as something that could go on a resume'? Or is just a game, a harmless pass time with no value beyond entertainment. For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?

Thanks for your time, and as always, thanks to everyone who makes the game what it is.


(I lost my best response, but I will try to repost it)

I am in my upper 50s, and I would say such in depth games as WoW and Eve have much to teach and learn from, especially for younger players. I have used them to teach my sons the values of goal setting, planning, economics, the free market place, priorities, team work, and etc.

I see WoW as a game putting much more of a premium on sharp reflexes, and Eve as putting the premium on a sharp and agile mind, coupled with patience, persistence and learning from mistakes. I would also say the size of the mental data base you would need for WoW pales in comparison to that needed for Eve. As such I would say younger players would more likely excel at WoW, and older players more likely at Eve. These are of course very broad generalizations.

My once sharp reflexes have begun to fade, but my mind seems if anything sharper. And so I left WoW to come here, and I have not regretted it.

I would caution against putting it on your resume for most jobs, as I think most lower level interviewers are married to a checklist and to set notions. But you might luck upon an interviewer like myself, who seeing it, would ask you what skills you felt the game had taught you, and how you thought they make be transferable to the job opening.

I think most older players would agree that regardless of how far you went in formal schooling, that we have learned more from all the aspects of life than from school. Each has its place, and the wise neglect none.
Untanas Volmyr
Perkone
Caldari State
#80 - 2013-05-07 21:05:43 UTC
I am 31. And I've played many mmo's when I had the time. I have never had so many experiences and met so many people in a Such a short amount of time. Eve was actually my choice as the last mmo I will play before I quit gaming. And well. I don't want to quit now that I learned how to play it. Im somewhat determined now. Oops.

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