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[GMVA] Freedom of Information request on Midular Assassin

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Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#1 - 2013-05-07 11:19:24 UTC
With the passing of the Ray of Matar, Karin Midular, the time has come for complete transparency regarding her assassin.

We owe it to our brothers and sisters in the Minmatar Republic to provide timely and substantive information about the assassin that killed their former head of state, so they might determine if there is a more significant security threat against their government.

As Executor of the Villore Accords, an organization which supports the defense of many border systems and planets in the Placid and Black Rise regions, I make a formal petition to the Federation Senate and the Intelligence Committee to have the Federal Intelligence Office release the identity and status of the suspected assassin.

This cruel and malicious entity, which scored numerous kills with simple small arms weapons, must be deemed a threat to interstellar peace. His backers and supporters, whoever they may be, must be deemed a hostile force against cosmopolitical stability.

It is the opinion of Villore Accords and Moira. military intelligence analysists that this assassin is indeed a clone trooper, fitted with a sophisticated implant enabling nearly infinite recloning. This is due to the same pattern of attack and similar combat efficiency as the assassin who nearly killed Tibus Heth.

Because of the purge of the first generation of these clone troops, it seems disturbing that any other aberrant units of FirstGen soldiers could remain. That makes it even more disturbing that it could have been a coordinated attack by either a faction-loyal group of clone troopers or some unknown fringe group.

In light of the mystery surrounding the nature of this assassin and the horrific possibility there may be more like him out there, preparing to strike against civil and cultural icons and institutions, we must move immediately with a full-scale investigation, in full public transparency, to bring justice to the perpetrators of the act, and to prevent further tragedies like the one that has come to pass today.

The Villore Accords will mark the Seventh of May as a day of mourning for the former Prime Minister, Karin Midular. May her memory of temperance and leadership live on in all of us.

Julianus Soter

Executor, GMVA, CEO, Moira.



Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Jonkero Adoudel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-07 11:58:07 UTC
R.I.P Prime Minister, Karin Midular
Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-05-07 12:10:12 UTC
This is hardly the time for more of your insincere populist drivel, Soter. You should be ashamed.
Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#4 - 2013-05-07 12:23:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Julianus Soter
What are we to do instead? Storm the Federal intelligence office, arrest Mentas Blaque, and demand answers?

There is a problem here. We must know who and what the assassin is. The only viable method to determine that is putting political pressure on the administration, and to remind them this is the RIGHT thing to do.

It is the only way will get answers. And it is in that way we can remember Karin Midular.

PS, Of course, if would rather want, we can allow to the perpetrators, plural, of this crime go unpunished.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#5 - 2013-05-07 12:30:57 UTC
Sorry Jules, but we'll disagree here.

We as Joe Public have no right to such information as an investigation is going on. If you want justice, let those in charge do their job. The shooter has been detained and is being held in questioning, and even from someone with no love of Blaque and some of the methods that the FiO employ these days, they are effective.


What good is it if we know? Are you hoping to identify him so you can break him out? Do you want the media to glorify said shooter? At the end of the day we have no reasonable demand to information, nor does it benefit the investigation to grant us any.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#6 - 2013-05-07 12:33:39 UTC
There's no need to make the information public. All that needs to be done is transferring him and all information to the Sebiestor tribe, where he belongs.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#7 - 2013-05-07 12:41:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Caellach Marellus
Jinari Otsito wrote:
There's no need to make the information public. All that needs to be done is transferring him and all information to the Sebiestor tribe, where he belongs.


And the other victims of the shooter that day? Some were Republicans, others were Federal. The breach to Federal security that requires investigation, the support network the shooter may have had that may still exist within the Federation?

No, he doesn't belong to a Tribe. This is precisely the emotional affect the Federal Justice system made reference to, you don't get to claim a shooter over the death of one woman out of sixty people, not to mention a further three hundred plus injured. What about their justice? Or do they not matter, because they should, every life is important.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#8 - 2013-05-07 12:46:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Julianus Soter
I do regret the large numbers of Caldari Militia supporters and other megacorporation employees chestbeating about this situation. Let our attention be focused on resolving this crime and uncovering those that did it.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#9 - 2013-05-07 12:48:30 UTC
I have to agree with Mr. Soter and i support the petition to release some information about the assassin.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#10 - 2013-05-07 12:57:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Seriphyn Inhonores
I support this petition. The withholding of information is contradictory to the democratic principles of open government and free information. Both citizens of the Minmatar Republic and the Gallente Federation have the right to know the details; too much time has passed, and now the masses may begin to see conspiracy where there may be none.

Seriphyn Inhonores
Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
#11 - 2013-05-07 13:19:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Che Biko
As much as I am sympathetic to Inhonores' view above, I think there's a time and place for everything, and I can't tell wether that time has come or not..
As others mentioned, releasing all information publicly may hurt the investigation, or the attempt to detain any accomplices of the assasin. Sharing of intel with the Republic may have been done already, behind closed doors.
Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#12 - 2013-05-07 13:32:17 UTC
It is time for the Capsuleers to be brought in on the investgation. We have immense talents and resources at our disposal. We should be helping uncover the root cause of this tragedy, but we are being hampered by lack if access and information. If the Capsuleers are to have a greater role in New Eden, and if the empires expect to earn our cooperation, then they must become more responsive to changing circumstances.

This petition gives the Federal Administration and the Senate an opportunity to demonstrate their willingness to cooperate.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#13 - 2013-05-07 13:54:33 UTC
I don't need a public release of the information, actually.

A statement from my tribe saying that they have received all details from the Federation and are working in co-operation with them to investigate and to bring the culprit to justice would be just fine.

Personally I'd rather most capsuleer stay the **** out of the matter, too. Thank you.

Elsebeth
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-05-07 14:14:32 UTC
People are talking like there's a need to track the shooter down. My understanding however is that he went willingly into police custody immediately after the shooting when his vantage point was surrounded.

The fact is, the killer is in custody and will get whatever punishment is coming to him. I fully understand the rage, pain and loss that Sebiestor must be feeling now - remember what happened to Ishukone five years ago - but Caellach is right, in this case there are other victims who also have the right to see justice done.

I'm sure the FIO and RSS have been exchanging information. They're old and fast allies, well used to working with one another after all. If the RSS have intel on co-conspirators inside their jurisdiction, I'm sure they will act on it.

What more can be done? I'm no Sebiestor and I apologise if I speak out of turn here, but it seems to me that Midular wouldn't have wanted her Tribe to let their grief drive a wedge between old allies. She was the sort of woman who built bridges rather than burning them and from my outsider's perspective, I can only guess that she would have preferred for her tribe to unite in solidarity and grief with the Federal victims of this crime, rather than focussing solely on her. She always struck me as being selfless like that.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#15 - 2013-05-07 14:19:56 UTC
The problem is the shooter is a clone trooper. If he is executed, he will live to kill again. We must identify his corporation and cloned support network, so it can be targeted and destroyed.

This is a more complicated problem than just one criminal or just one victim.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-05-07 14:20:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Anja Suorsa
Julianus Soter wrote:
I do regret the large numbers of Caldari Militia supporters and other megacorporation employees chestbeating about this situation. Let our attention be focused on resolving this crime and uncovering those that did it.


Yes, yes. All two of us. Yours are empty platitudes, as ever. I am simply pointing them out for what they are. I maintain that you should feel ashamed. Let the Matari grieve in peace. Investigations and petitions can come later.
Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#17 - 2013-05-07 14:31:51 UTC
Anja Suorsa wrote:
Julianus Soter wrote:
I do regret the large numbers of Caldari Militia supporters and other megacorporation employees chestbeating about this situation. Let our attention be focused on resolving this crime and uncovering those that did it.


Yes, yes. All two of us. Yours are empty platitudes, as ever. I am simply pointing them out for what they are. I maintain that you should feel ashamed. Let the Matari grieve in peace. Investigations and petitions can come later.


I grieve with the Minmatar. I merely seek to kick the Federation government into action, as they appear to have improper priorities. We will honor our allies by seeking justice for the Ray.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
#18 - 2013-05-07 14:45:09 UTC
Anja Suorsa wrote:
Julianus Soter wrote:
I do regret the large numbers of Caldari Militia supporters and other megacorporation employees chestbeating about this situation. Let our attention be focused on resolving this crime and uncovering those that did it.


Yes, yes. All two of us. Yours are empty platitudes, as ever. I am simply pointing them out for what they are. I maintain that you should feel ashamed. Let the Matari grieve in peace. Investigations and petitions can come later.


All that Mr Soter has done is expressed that wants to bring a killer to justice. Yet you are puttling words in his mouth and saying that he should feel ashamed for doing so.

I don't understand the Caldari, the scream for Justice all the time, yet when others seek it that say that their actions are shameful and have secret plots.

Deep Void Merc Syndicate will support a day of mourning for The Ray. She was a good woman and a Hero the Matari people. She sought Freedom and Justice for all Minmatar people. Fly Safe My Lady.

Blasters for life

https://neverpheedthetroll.blogspot.com

Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#19 - 2013-05-07 14:45:43 UTC
With this turn of events, we must move expeditiously to prevent bloodshed.


I recommend an emergency session of the Senate to deal with this crisis, executive action by President Jacus Roden.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#20 - 2013-05-07 14:59:19 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
People are talking like there's a need to track the shooter down. My understanding however is that he went willingly into police custody immediately after the shooting when his vantage point was surrounded.

The fact is, the killer is in custody and will get whatever punishment is coming to him. I fully understand the rage, pain and loss that Sebiestor must be feeling now - remember what happened to Ishukone five years ago - but Caellach is right, in this case there are other victims who also have the right to see justice done.

I'm sure the FIO and RSS have been exchanging information. They're old and fast allies, well used to working with one another after all. If the RSS have intel on co-conspirators inside their jurisdiction, I'm sure they will act on it.

What more can be done? I'm no Sebiestor and I apologise if I speak out of turn here, but it seems to me that Midular wouldn't have wanted her Tribe to let their grief drive a wedge between old allies. She was the sort of woman who built bridges rather than burning them and from my outsider's perspective, I can only guess that she would have preferred for her tribe to unite in solidarity and grief with the Federal victims of this crime, rather than focussing solely on her. She always struck me as being selfless like that.


Great words.

Onto the more pressing development, if this Republic naval flotilla is going to pull off what the RSS did a few weeks ago, then I would be so daring as to say that Karin Midular would be ashamed.
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