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Gnosis thoughts

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#21 - 2013-05-06 14:46:12 UTC
The Magnate was only redeemable for one day.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#22 - 2013-05-06 15:10:12 UTC  |  Edited by: RavenPaine
The 1st redeem items list had an expiration date of 1 day.
The Gnosis is good until 6/1 I think..

I shield fit mine with AC's.
700 DPS overheated
55k EHP forgot to overheat, so add15%? Totally omni tanked, no specific tank mods.
1750ish M/S overheated

Best resist is in the hull, so yeah, hull tank ftw.

I like the ship a LOT! I would probably fly 1 or 2 until they die. Then keep 1 or 2 for collectables.



Edit here: I had no implants in that would improve my fit. Nor did I fit T2 rigs. And no fancy mods, all T2 or Meta 4.
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-05-06 17:10:54 UTC
I also note that there are no skill requirements... though obviously it would be nice to be able to use medium turrets/missiles...
A day old noob can jump into this ship.

However... its so damn slow, I thought perhaps this could change.... 7.5% velocity bones per level of Minmatar Battlecruiser -> gets is base speed up to a respectable 165 (206 with navigation 5)

Of course, Minatar BC is also the logical choice for the projectile bonus...

So if I were to change it, I'd add skill bonuses (but not prereqs?)

Minnie BC: 7.5% speed per level, 5% medium projectile per level
Caldari BS: 5% missile damage per level, 5% shield resist per level
Gallente: 5% hybrid damage per level, 10% drone damage and HP per level
Amarr: 5% laser damage per level, 5% armor resist per level

Then it would pwn... ie more speed and resists
DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
#24 - 2013-05-06 17:18:58 UTC
TL;DR Who cares it's a FREE Ship!! It has the fitting slots and bonuses to fit/fly however ANY player wishes it to. It's also a spec ed ship and therefore no amount of complaining of the forums will likely ever get CCP to change anything on it.

The Operative: "There are a lot of innocent people being killed in the air right now".

Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: "You have no idea how true that is".

Auduin Samson
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-05-06 17:26:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Auduin Samson
I'm playing around with mine as an exploration boat for the time between now and when I can fly a Loki. A corp mate and I ran through a 4/10 site yesterday and came out with some shiny loot, so it's already done a decent job in that role.

I started out giving it a shot as a passive tank but quickly gave up on the idea when I had to warp out of a site twice to recharge my shields in station. Definitely not this ship's forte if you want to do any respectable DPS. I'm now rolling with an active shield tank to see how that works out. I'll probably toy with it a bit more before I settle on anything.

This ship's speed is downright awful. It moves like a typhoon. Being a primarily Minmatar pilot, it's quite a shock to only move at 339m/s with an afterburner on. Kiting is almost impossible without a MWD. Its slow speed is really the only thing I don't like about it.

All in all, I like this ship a lot and can look past the terrible speed due to it's incredible versatility. You can fit it up however you want. The resistances are all evenly balanced which is amazing for a long range cross-region exploration trek. Slapping a couple adaptive resistance mods on this thing lets you be ready for anything you could come across. I'm about two months from flying a loki (another month for the hull, plus a month for some more support skills) and I plan to fly this beast as my exploration ship until then. Or until it explodes. Whichever comes first.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-05-06 17:40:14 UTC
Sure it's slow but it's mass is incredibly awesome so this ship should be flown with a shield tank and a mwd otherwise it will be crap.
It's also a terrible pve ship because it's cap and shield recharge is terrible, buffer fit it with 2LSE and 2 invulns or similar. Maybe it works with buffer tank in the new exploration sites.
Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-05-06 17:45:57 UTC
Josilin du Guesclin wrote:
You can do some interesting things with this hull. That said, I notice that the fitting is tight enough that you need to match your weapons with your tank - low CPU/high PG weapons with a shield tank, high CPU/low PG weapons with an armour tank (and HMLs are just plain difficult to fit). So it's a pretty nice shield+beam BC, which is pretty unique, I think.


This, and an armor/missile platform will be the more interesting uses imho.
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-05-06 17:46:31 UTC
DeLindsay wrote:
TL;DR Who cares it's a FREE Ship!! It has the fitting slots and bonuses to fit/fly however ANY player wishes it to. It's also a spec ed ship and therefore no amount of complaining of the forums will likely ever get CCP to change anything on it.



Yes, its very nice, the first free ship that may actually be useful (without being identical to a t1 frigate *cough* Sarum Magnate * cough*)

But CCP could do a limited release, to test the waters first, and then make it available through LP stores (add a SOCT LP store, and some agents? or just make it buyable with concord LP converted to SOCT LP?).

And my point about it being a platform for assessing balance of tank and weapon types still stands.
The VC's
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2013-05-06 17:54:17 UTC
Hmmm... I'm currently moving to another city right now so I've set battle cruisers 5 in the queue and not been able to log since last week. I won't be logging until next weekend. Have I totally missed out on all the freebies?

The gnosis is awesome, I played around with it on sisi. I'd be gutted if I've missed getting one on tq
Provence Tristram
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-05-06 17:56:51 UTC
I can't wait for the prices to rise a little so I can sell my Gnosis. It's easily one of the top 5 ugliest boats in EVE. Good riddance when it's gone.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#31 - 2013-05-06 17:57:47 UTC
You'll get the Gnosis, you won't get the other stuff though.
Machagon
Amamake Anarchist Community College
#32 - 2013-05-06 18:04:13 UTC
Where are you getting this expiry information from?

I haven't redeemed my gifts and the Gnosis offer is showing as expiring on June 1, with the rest not expiring until June 5.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#33 - 2013-05-06 18:11:20 UTC
Really? I read 6/5 as May 6th so I guess that's a bit confusing.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-05-06 18:36:59 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Really? I read 6/5 as May 6th so I guess that's a bit confusing.


Yeah, they want ppl to log in for the record. Redeem it while it's still hot.P
Bea Love
Antiqua Vero
The Ancients.
#35 - 2013-05-06 18:41:31 UTC
I really like the Gnosis - finally an exploration "all-in-one" for those who don't want to fly T3's :) Thx CCP
Alberik
Eusebius Corporation
#36 - 2013-05-06 19:05:33 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
The Magnate was only redeemable for one day.


i redeemed the magnate with one account with all those other stuff "red star" yesterday and the gnossis today

an other account redeemed everything including the magnate today
Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#37 - 2013-05-06 19:33:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Chris Winter
I think far too much of the Gnosis's DPS potential is in its drones. It's basically a drone boat that also gives you the ability to fit 6.25 effective turrets/launchers of your choice and a tank of your choice--as long as your tanking choice isn't passive shield regen, because it's not very effective at that.

So if you've ever said to yourself "man, I really wish I had a good solid drone/laser shield tanker at the BC size!" then it's a decent choice for you.

But if you don't have lots of skills in drones or don't like droneboats, the Gnosis will be underperforming for you.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#38 - 2013-05-06 20:04:06 UTC
EFT snapshot

Did L4 today with it..not bad for a cruiser..i dont have med gun dmg implant so i guess it can dish out 700 dps long range.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2013-05-06 20:06:54 UTC
I can think of at least 3 BCs that would do level 4s faster.

This ship has no requirements and is special edition for a reason: it's not meant to outclass anything already in the game.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#40 - 2013-05-06 20:29:19 UTC
That is true but it does have few perks that shouldn't be discarded

Scan bonus on a BC

drone boosted bonus is nice for pro frig cleaning

it look sexy as hell

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

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