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Rules of a Pilgrim Pilot
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Zet Morg
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-05-03 18:34:13 UTC
For all, who are thinking about flying a Pilgrim in FW, i give you Pilgrim Rules. I defined them using my personal experience. Mainly those were derived from mistakes i've made that cost my ship.

Fleet engagement


1. In case friendlies bailed from plex, and only one target came that you could kill - DO NOT ENGAGE, because he have back-up and he is being cautious.
2. When fighing with fleet mates in your favor against multiple target, NEVER come close at first. You are primaried. STAY at range. Unless have logi support.
3.After the fight, DO NOT rewarp at range from the cluster, from which enemies can warp in. You WILL get decloaked and killed. Use a different one, or a tactical bookmark.
4. After engagement, pull range from closest target (>2km) and CLOAK. Be ALIGNED.
5. When baiting, DO NOT DECLOAK, until bait tackles enemy. ALWAYS tell fleetmate when he can burn if needed.

Solo engagement

1. Do not engage people on station. NEVER EVER.
2. Once engaged and killed your prey,in case he called for back-up and decide to come back - DO NOT ENGAGE. They will be fitted to counter you.
3. DO NOT engage multiple projectile/missile users.
4. NEVER warp to plex at 0 if there are ANY possible hostile in space. Always warp to 20km.
5. NEVER fight 0 on the gate or close by. Minimum distance - 80-100km.
6. When engaging a target, pres D-Scan every 2 seconds. Range of D-Scan should be around 214748364 Km. So that you would have time to bail if anyone is coming.
7. DO NOT ENAGAGE missile boats,unless you can tackle them at 0 and bail if needed.
8. In case of fighting multiple SMALL targets: TACKLE kiters first or force them off field and then deal with close range ships.
9. After tackling/neuting target, KILL ECM DRONES ASAP.
10. ONLY engage if you WILL WIN or you are 100% sure you could bail if needed.
11. Statistically, your best range is 7km (T2 fit), or 10KM (faction fit). - effect of TD optimal range on projectile users.
12. DO NOT ENGAGE Vagabonds EVER. You can not kill them.
13. ALWAYS carry a set of Hornet-ECM 300. USE THEM IF YOU BEING TACKLED from range.
14. Tell people that your'e going out. Let them know where you are in case of assistance.
penifSMASH
ElitistOps
Snuffed Out
#2 - 2013-05-04 04:04:29 UTC
I have my own Pilgrim rules.

1. Fly something else that isn't trash

Hope you liked my Pilgrim rules
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#3 - 2013-05-04 05:20:41 UTC
penifSMASH wrote:
I have my own Pilgrim rules.

1. Fly something else that isn't trash

Hope you liked my Pilgrim rules

Don't blame the ship for your failures, noob.

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#4 - 2013-05-04 13:22:24 UTC
Tul Breetai wrote:
penifSMASH wrote:
I have my own Pilgrim rules.

1. Fly something else that isn't trash

Hope you liked my Pilgrim rules

Don't blame the ship for your failures, noob.


He's not wrong.

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Flyingleanpocket
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#5 - 2013-05-04 18:51:06 UTC
Fight hard.
Die.
Be reborn.
Buy a new pilgrim to gank unsuspecting neckbeards with.
Zet Morg
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-05-04 21:28:29 UTC
penifSMASH wrote:
I have my own Pilgrim rules.

1. Fly something else that isn't trash

Hope you liked my Pilgrim rules



Well, then Pilgrim is not a ship for you then. I've killed ~80 people in my pilgrim last month. So, youre pilgrim rules sucks
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#7 - 2013-05-05 00:11:33 UTC
Zet Morg wrote:
penifSMASH wrote:
I have my own Pilgrim rules.

1. Fly something else that isn't trash

Hope you liked my Pilgrim rules



Well, then Pilgrim is not a ship for you then. I've killed ~80 people in my pilgrim last month. So, youre pilgrim rules sucks


0 kills 10 losses

Alright then mister forum alt.

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penifSMASH
ElitistOps
Snuffed Out
#8 - 2013-05-05 03:12:26 UTC
Zet Morg wrote:
penifSMASH wrote:
I have my own Pilgrim rules.

1. Fly something else that isn't trash

Hope you liked my Pilgrim rules



Well, then Pilgrim is not a ship for you then. I've killed ~80 people in my pilgrim last month. So, youre pilgrim rules sucks


Can you make an addendum to your OP? I don't think 19 cast-in-die rules on how to fly PILGRIM in LOW-SEC are enough.
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#9 - 2013-05-05 08:25:53 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Zet Morg wrote:
penifSMASH wrote:
I have my own Pilgrim rules.

1. Fly something else that isn't trash

Hope you liked my Pilgrim rules



Well, then Pilgrim is not a ship for you then. I've killed ~80 people in my pilgrim last month. So, youre pilgrim rules sucks


0 kills 10 losses

Alright then mister forum alt.

You're not really making a point. If this is a forum alt the killboard is irrelevant. He said FW. So, while this prolly isn't just a forum alt, this is clearly not the toon he used.

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.
Col Arran
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-05-05 08:36:50 UTC
Tul Breetai wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Zet Morg wrote:
penifSMASH wrote:
I have my own Pilgrim rules.

1. Fly something else that isn't trash

Hope you liked my Pilgrim rules



Well, then Pilgrim is not a ship for you then. I've killed ~80 people in my pilgrim last month. So, youre pilgrim rules sucks


0 kills 10 losses

Alright then mister forum alt.

You're not really making a point. If this is a forum alt the killboard is irrelevant. He said FW. So, while this prolly isn't just a forum alt, this is clearly not the toon he used.


The point is one that has been made very clear to anyone but the most obtuse, let me explain. If you want respect and credibility with what you say, post on your main.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#11 - 2013-05-05 14:24:04 UTC
Zet Morg wrote:

12. DO NOT ENGAGE Vagabonds EVER. You can not kill them.


what? ...


Zet Morg wrote:

4. After engagement, pull range from closest target (>2km) and CLOAK. Be ALIGNED.


As a reminder, you can't cloak when targeted.
Aldebaran Aubaris
Free-lances
#12 - 2013-05-06 11:15:11 UTC
Flyingleanpocket wrote:
Fight hard.
Die.
Be reborn.
Buy a new pilgrim to gank unsuspecting neckbeards with.


!
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#13 - 2013-05-06 14:24:18 UTC
The first rule of flying the Pilgrim is you don't talk about flying the Pilgrim.
The second rule of flying the Pilgrim is you don't talk about flying the Pilgrim.
The third rule is...err.... Bacon is awesome.

Flinch's guide to the Pilgrim... plus Bacon.
Durzel
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#14 - 2013-05-06 18:01:06 UTC
Pilgrim used to be awesome, then T3s came out.
xPredat0rz
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#15 - 2013-05-07 01:49:54 UTC
So find people in cheap derpy pve ships. Check
Nuet them out. Check
Let site kill them. Got it.

Run from anything that can fight because it will eat you.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#16 - 2013-05-07 02:49:55 UTC
xPredat0rz wrote:
So find people in cheap derpy pve ships. Check
Nuet them out. Check
Let site kill them. Got it.

Run from anything that can fight because it will eat you.


NPC AI changes has made this pretty annoying to do as the Pilgrim puts out alot of ewar and the rats usually switch to the new ship in the pocket and tend to stay on you because neut/scram/web/td puts you high on the NPC kill priority.
xPredat0rz
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#17 - 2013-05-07 04:39:45 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
xPredat0rz wrote:
So find people in cheap derpy pve ships. Check
Nuet them out. Check
Let site kill them. Got it.

Run from anything that can fight because it will eat you.


NPC AI changes has made this pretty annoying to do as the Pilgrim puts out alot of ewar and the rats usually switch to the new ship in the pocket and tend to stay on you because neut/scram/web/td puts you high on the NPC kill priority.



OP is faction warfare. Rats shouldnt target him when he aggros
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#18 - 2013-05-07 07:53:57 UTC
xPredat0rz wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
xPredat0rz wrote:
So find people in cheap derpy pve ships. Check
Nuet them out. Check
Let site kill them. Got it.

Run from anything that can fight because it will eat you.


NPC AI changes has made this pretty annoying to do as the Pilgrim puts out alot of ewar and the rats usually switch to the new ship in the pocket and tend to stay on you because neut/scram/web/td puts you high on the NPC kill priority.



OP is faction warfare. Rats shouldnt target him when he aggros


Rats also do NO dps so neuting him out won't do ****.

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Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#19 - 2013-05-07 08:15:25 UTC
> Buy Curse
> ?
> ?
> Profit?
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-05-07 08:26:54 UTC
Lloyd Roses wrote:

Zet Morg wrote:

4. After engagement, pull range from closest target (>2km) and CLOAK. Be ALIGNED.


As a reminder, you can't cloak when targeted.


Depending on how you define "engagement" there shouldn't be anything hostile left to target you after it's over. Of course some people have screwy ideas about what an "engagement" actually is.