EVE General Discussion

Yay! Gimme a flamethrower!

Sure, I think WiS is inevitable (as long as Eve survives), though I'm hesitant to put any real estimates on when it will start happening and what shape the implementation will take.

That in no way, however, supports your argument concerning what people want and what CCP will do based on your subjective interpretation of one crowd response to one comment by one person from CCP.

Powerful insight. Thank you for your contribution.

I have never done any of those things (unless you can use the word jerking to refer to female genitalia, in which case two people can make a circle). What I want for WiS is for CCP to start... that's it. I fully support their wreck diving prototype idea which covers all the antis concerns. Amorphous plan?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=161511&find=unread

The above doesn't look very amorphous to me. And that's what I, and a substantial amount of the pro crowd, are asking for.

Also, your doing it again... talking about 'evidence' when you don't know what your talking about. It's not smart, it just makes you look like a ******. I don't even know why I bother replying to you. Your posts are just poorly thought out offensive stupid bullshit.



CCP have a fantastic vision of how they want to expand WiS. Plenty of meaningful gameplay content that fits with the Eve universe perfectly.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=161511&find=unread

Read it, think about it, and start supporting it.

So.. when people are supporting CCPs meaningful vision, you will support it too? I knew you were a secret supporter yourself. A bit like how a surprisingly high number of homophobes turn out to be gay. From this point forward you will be referred to you as a closet barbie lover.



You too.

It takes a huge amount of development resources to produce WIS related content and in the past the content produced has been hugely behind schedule, questionably functional and devoid of actual gameplay. Subsequently people were very upset that their subscription money was being spent developing a set of features that sucked, didn't work properly and didn't improve the game for them in any way when there are large portions of the game that people interact with every day that suck ass and could have been improved if they had just had a little dev time dedicated to them.

Dedicating resources to developing content that is effectively not actually part of the game at the expense of improving the game is a bad idea and CCP seems to have caught on to that.

So don't expect to see any large WIS based expansions any time soon. They'll probably work on it incrementally over time though.

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Agree with the Goon (where the world is coming to?).

That said, exploration, dusties for backup and other such things were mentioned quite a lot on feature discussion in the very same thread that got linked in the first page.

This was written in reply to a post now gone yet all points are thread relevant. I had put some little work and thought into it so please forgive me the recycling.

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Please do it right and buy a monocle before ranting over the Jita statue attack. The riot was never about content that would grow the player base. There are so many dirty things I might call EVE players but spoiled is not one of them. They are passionate and rioted over a silly change in direction that threatened their core play values while offering up nothing in return. CCP should be thankful as most companies never have a consumer base with such love for their product.

Not every game needs ten million subscribers to be successful. Let me remind you of a term that espoused the perfect philosophy of population growth and feature development for this game once upon a time. EVE: “EVOLUTION.” The mechanics and lore of New Eden have always provided a solid foundation to evolve new game play from. The real problem developed when CCP lost focus upon this idea and attempted to sell out for a combination of purchasable vanity, easy and active click / twitch play under the guise of increasing accessibility.

Factional Warfare, Pirate Nations, Agent Missioning, Worm Holes, all of these examples are underdeveloped existing content waiting for the next spurt of applied features to create the evolution of new game play that will delight the old while drawing in the new and can be done while remaining true, internally consistent, with the existing game mechanics. Instead, someone is trying to entertain us with can vomiting wrecks where the loot vanishes in a few seconds unless you click again and again uselessly (to feel active) to secure X.

I like and respect CCP but must point out, considering, that any failure in growth is clearly in their hands when so many potential opportunities we actually want are sitting there looking everyone in the face. Staff and project layoffs (and overs) play a role as I am sure that when some team members left no one remained to carry on their particular torch. So the work sat there discarded while some one ran off in a new direction to make “their” mark. This has lead to a scattered vision as some should have carried on what was started before.

You are correct, in my view, in asserting that CCP needs to consider adjusting their business model in the age of free to play and would be severely compromised by adopting the industry standard. However, they are a perfect candidate for adopting a buy to play model. It would even be a means of getting everyone out of the ship and walking in stations or through explorable ancient ship wrecks as you clearly want through the EVOLUTION of game play. Incarna with a point outside of vanity sales and video card pwnage.

Make DUST514 a buy to play addition to an EVE account. Maybe even allow capsuleers to train ground skills and vice versa as a natural EVOLUTION and just look what could come of it. Instead, we have just another console shooter inbound because some one wants to code every part of EVE as a standalone game for accessibility, short term profit, and supposed strength of delivery method. Whose fault is that again? I would not be blaming the player base as somehow holding CCP back...

WIS dead? I have a feeling it's far from it and Dust is proof of that. As the devs gain experience from Dust it's only a matter of time before other walking avatar based games CCP no doubt is currently working on behind the scenes will come into existence. This game alone had changed so much in 10 years,just imagine 10 years from now.