EVE General Discussion

Most likely it's dead, yes. The summer of rage broke CCP's collective spine and now they're so terrified of even mentioning WiS that I just don't see it happening for at least half a decade or more. Now, we the players who support WiS, could throw a temper tantrum just like the spaceship kiddies did two summers ago, and try to force CCP in a new direction. But frankly I don't think we're that childish.

Which is tragic. Because avatar gameplay is the future of EVE. Look at the last two years - it was 100% FiS. Did the game grow? Not much. If EVE continues with this 100% FiS, it'll just continue to stagnate, with minimal growth. And all this after they spent SOOOO much time and effort and manpower to create the engine and the character creator and the NEX store and all that stuff. To abandon it now, just one or two steps short of meaningful avatar gameplay, in light of all that work that was done on it, is simply tragic. No other word for it.

But I admit I could be looking at it the wrong way. What I mean is, in a year or two games like Star Citizen, Elite, etc., will start to come out. Games that will do "ships in space fighting" part a lot better than EVE. I'm talking good physics engine, combat based on player skill rather than character skill, difficult/impossible to multi-box, no Pay2Win, with strong avatar support to boot (avatars dynamically showing wear and tear of combat, including scars, missing limbs, etc.) Once that happens, and EVE subs start to go down, CCP might have to wake up and finally start to react. I really feel the last 10 years with near-zero competition really allowed them to adopt this relaxed "we do what we feel like" attitude. Once it becomes obvious that they have to adapt or perish, things might improve.

Until then, all we can do is sit and wait. Maybe take a break from the game for a bit. There's nothing in Odyssey that interests me, so I'm planning to take a vacation until the winter expansion at least.



Actually, a lot of people came because of the promise of WiS, back when CCP was releasing videos of avatar gameplay with the old engine, before they decided to build Carbon. I personally know several people who didn't give a flying hoo-ha about spaceships, but who would have loved it if the game turned into a full-fledges sci-fi sim. As CCP said repeatedly was their long-term goal from day one.

And there's a ton of people playing EVE right now who don't give a hoot about spaceships. They play to trade, build, etc. If you could trade between regions without traveling, they probably wouldn't even click the undock button in years.

Folks REALLY need to stop paining all EVE players with the same tarred brush.

you came for the spaceships content.

Most of us don't care about WiS either way, we just don't want it implemented now to spite the chickenlittlest barbie fetishists who infest this subforum.

Really? You would log into EVE to admire your trousers and tidy up your cabin?

If they had bars in lowsec where you could play no limit Poker, or live auctions for ships or actual interaction then that would be nice. I'd still fly spaceships though like the majority of folks who play EVE.

If there is nothing in the new expansion that interests you, you really should consider another game.

Another compelling argument based on anecdotal evidence from the barbie fetishist chickenlittlists.

Haha. My evidence was less anecdotal than yours. Wait, actually... I dont think you even had any evidence. "What can be claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence". Just because you know a few popular science catch phrases doesn't mean you can use them in the wrong situations to look smart. Get a brain and a life you ******* ****.

AFAIK The engine they used for the CQ has been taken out back and shot and they're using something entirely different for their vampire game now. So WiS is dead for a good long while. Which a fortunate for everyone who actually plays EVE.