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This is actually a nerf to suicide ganking since regular security status gain is now slower and Tags4Sec will be obnoxiously inconvenient and/or not worth it because CCP felt like adding dumb complexity to it in the form of stupid restrictions on what tags you can use and where you can redeem them.


Thanks, CCP, I was really looking forward to using this new feature. Oh well.

-1 Eve is about consequences. Throwing isk at a self inflicted behavioral problem is weak game mechanics.


And given the population of low-sec, I don't think we'll miss the subs who can't be bothered to commit to the life of a pirate.

Holy gods of gank! When was the last time you guys saw a real ganker care about his -10 status? Rofl, another portion of dust in the eyes But some newbs might bite and spend a lot of isk for tags.
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OFC they all will run to lowsec to ratt. Just wait and see.

I like what has been proposed, it will probably be reasonably successful once it has been in play for a while and any wrinkles ironed out.



But I would also like to see a parallel system in use that allowed you to remain negative sec status, with the tags only providing you with a temporary pass into hisec.

The tag would only stop you from being attacked by police until such time as you commit a criminal act at which time concord would also warp in and pop you.

The tag would allow you to move about in hisec, but because you have bad sec status you could still be engaged by any player, but anyone engaging you in hisec would pick up a suspect timer which would also allow them to be engaged.



The mechanism to allow you into hisec could be similar to that used to check you for drugs, i.e. you get scanned and providing you have the tag the police don't attack you. You might require a tag for each gate or just one for the whole trip.



I would prefer to stay -10, even though I didn't actually plan on being -10, the circumstances of being in the FW warzone make it very difficult to not end up with a "pirate" sec status regardless of what mechanism there is for recovering it.


This difficulty stems purely from the number of armed neutrals who come into losec looking for fights so waiting for them to aggress is not always an option.



Come to think of it I'd prefer to see negative sec-status in losec only incurred for an "act of piracy" i.e. attacking a non-combat vessel. Any combat ship that comes into the warzone that is not militia or pirate has no business being there and should be a free target.

Have I told you lately how much I love you?

IMHO every form of PVP in Eve needs to have some form of risk associated with it, and for far too long high sec griefing was really nothing more than "mission running for gankers" (I consider all high sec griefers to be care bears in their own way). Unfortunately any time you talk about adding risk to high sec PVP the people who engage in it cry "Nerf!", and the same thing is going to happen with what you are proposing Hans. But it has to be done in order to balance out the risks in the game.

Alleviating the grind for players to get back to doing what they love, even if what they love is to be a complete sociopath, is a good thing, and I say that as a proud carebear.

Reducing the already paltry consequences for behaving like a homicidal lunatic is a VERY BAD IDEA, not least of all because it serves to dilute the accomplishment of committing a truly grand act of piracy.

The obvious solution is to introduce consequences that neither preclude continued misbehaving, nor simply require the expenditure of additional, meaningless isk. Something irreplaceable must be penalized that does not directly restrict gameplay for the villain. Fortunately, such a commodity exists in Eve.

I propose that any pilot who loses a ship to CONCORD within 30 days of having lost a ship to CONCORD have a percentage-based training speed penalty applied to their account for a short period of time. The severity and length of the penalty should be increased if the loss was due to aggression against a player, based on the victim's security status. (Higher security status means greater penalty for ganker. E.I. - shooting the cop's favorites hurts more)

Furthermore, each infraction after the first should reset the 30 day cooldown, and subsequent penalties should stack. Initial penalties should be very small, little more than a smack on the wrist. Penalties should ramp exponentially, however, to introduce some real consequence for the habitual ganker to consider.

Thanks for the clarifications on this point and the other helpful replies.

Just to check, when you refer to a "small number of NPCs that were giving very high rewards", do you refer to rats in the sub-set of rats found in low sec, or all a larger pool including those in Null Sec?

As I understand things, Null Sec rats give the highest Sec gains currently and I wondered where we would find the rats that are having some Sec bonuses reduced.

Thanks in advance,
Sparks

So, still locking pirates out of half the game they pay for without any benefit hey? How about some low sec pirate missions for people with a sec status less than -5?

Buff to low sec non-FW bullsh1t, increased isk sinks (lp), provides some meaning to being flashy.

I'm not happy about the change in sec status ticks, as I most definitely kill more than one bs/5min when ratting sec status on my alt in a bomber.

when i suggested tags for security here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1112317#post1112317
i got one measly like
wheres my medal?
i also accept donations if all medals are given out already

Why 0.0 and not null?