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CCP please focus on fixing eve & retaining subs
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David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-09-07 16:22:59 UTC  |  Edited by: David Grogan
We all know Incarna is a disaster when it comes to subs.

Please CCP put the rest of Incarna on hold for a few months and focus on fixing EVE Online before u run out of subs or all 3 games will die.

Urgent Issues

1) Ship Rebalancing

We all know about supers needed a nerf but there is many standard caps & sub caps that need love or nerfing too.

- Onerious need a pg buff to bring it inline with the Guardian
- Most amarr frigs could use a second mid slot to fit tackle and a speed mod
- Assault frigs need that 4th bonus to make them useful in fleets
- Destroyers are too frail some hp buffs would help greatly
- Dramiel needs a mass increase to bring it inline with other interceptors
- The Helios needs a 3rd utility high slot so it can fullfill its designed role in black ops gangs and fit 1x covert cloak 1x probe launcher and 1x covert cyno at the same time.
- Carriers need an increase in fuel bay size.... carrying enough fuel for both multple jumps and strontium for triage is a pain with just 3000m3 fuel bay... increase it to the same size as dreads 8000m3
- Dreads need a hp buff and 5min siege timer so they have a useful role again.

2) Weapons balancing

For the love of god fix hybrids.

Both Gallente & Caldari have loads of useless ships because of the fail that is hybrids in particular railguns.

3) NPC Null Sec

Add more stations with cloning to all npc regions in particular great wildlands & outer ring. Stain has plenty of stations but the whole south of stain need some cloning services added to the stations there.

Also add more mid range asteroids to the belts in npc nullsec.

4) Sov Null Sec

Add a basic recycle center to all outposts that ONLY reprocess Loot. Make it still require a minmatar outpost to refine ores and ice.

Reduce the cost of upgrading existing outposts so it cost less to upgrade to a tier 3 outpost. this would help reduce station spamming in null sec. At present its cheaper to spam new outposts than it is to upgrade existing ones.

True sec should be upgradeable via time of system held and + i-hub upgrades

this would counter the bad anom nerf ye guys did.

0.0 -> -0.2 strategic index 1 military index 1
-0.21-> -0.4 strategic index 2 military index 2
-0.41 -> -0.6 strategic index 3 military index 3
-0.61 -> -0.8 strategic index 4 military index 4
-0.81 -> -1.0 strategic index 5 military index 5

Ice mining in Sov null sec
Hidden Ice belts of depletable ice roids that give ALL 4 isotopes should be available to be probed down.

5) Pos love

Seriously fix this.... there is many many great suggestions in the flogging dead horse threadnaughts
Also allow alliance pos gunning.

6) Moon Goo

This needs the be changed so its more like PI but on a corp level. Each moon type (Lava, Ice, Barren, Temperate, Ocean, Storm, Plasma, & Shattered) has various amounts of various moon goo. Each moon should have at least 5 types of moon goo. This should have roughly the same distribution as planets with plasma and shattered having higher concentrations of r64's and Technitium

This could then be a good place for linking in Dust 514 fighting for control of the moons.

Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#2 - 2011-09-07 16:33:05 UTC
good ideas, especially ice grav sites to go with the rock grav sites.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Sumos Tigerclaw
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-09-07 18:51:56 UTC
I agree but I'm afraid its too late. EvE was abandonded and died a while ago. Some of us are still lingering around the body foolishly hoping it will come back to life.
Gavin LeMarque
Time Lord Academy
#4 - 2011-09-07 19:08:37 UTC
I'd settle for fixed drone AI and a consistent warp animation.
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-09-07 19:08:52 UTC
Sumos Tigerclaw wrote:
I agree but I'm afraid its too late. EvE was abandoned and died a while ago. Some of us are still lingering around the body foolishly hoping it will come back to life.


its not too late there is still alot of players wanting to see EVE Online fixed .

WOD or Dust 514 wont make any progress if Eve is continuously neglected.

CCP ye need to face up to this. Your investors need to face up to this. Not enough Eve Subs = 1 dead game + 2 dead baby games & no more CCP.

Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-09-07 19:54:06 UTC
Sumos Tigerclaw wrote:
I agree but I'm afraid its too late. EvE was abandonded and died a while ago. Some of us are still lingering around the body foolishly hoping it will come back to life.


the 40k players on right now would like a word with you

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Sumos Tigerclaw
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-09-07 20:04:55 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Sumos Tigerclaw wrote:
I agree but I'm afraid its too late. EvE was abandonded and died a while ago. Some of us are still lingering around the body foolishly hoping it will come back to life.


the 40k players on right now would like a word with you


You mean the 1k players. The other 39k are bots and alts.
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-09-07 20:52:13 UTC  |  Edited by: David Grogan
well we have yet another alliance member hang up his precision boots and quit eve.

lost 5 people in the last 4 weeks so far. with over 10 gone since tyrannis. each person had at least 3 accounts.


ccp seriously enuff is enuff ... fix eve online now.

Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.
Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Doomheim
#9 - 2011-09-07 21:24:41 UTC
T2 Harby!
T2 Cane!
T2 Drake!
T2 Myrm!

That is all.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#10 - 2011-09-07 21:50:41 UTC
..and after THIRD patch this morning ALL modules on my Tengu wereoffline when I undocked.

The Tengu was not even affected earlier Shocked

And I finally had enough and unsubbed an hour ago. All 3 accounts. After 19 months of Skillpoints.

Really, enough is enough.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-09-07 21:58:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
David Grogan wrote:

We all know about supers needed a nerf but there is many standard caps & sub caps that need love or nerfing too.

- Onerious need a pg buff to bring it inline with the Guardian
- Most amarr frigs could use a second mid slot to fit tackle and a speed mod
- Assault frigs need that 4th bonus to make them useful in fleets
- Destroyers are too frail some hp buffs would help greatly
- Dramiel needs a mass increase to bring it inline with other interceptors
- The Helios needs a 3rd utility high slot so it can fullfill its designed role in black ops gangs and fit 1x covert cloak 1x probe launcher and 1x covert cyno at the same time.

can't they just make each race's ships exactly the same?

and each ship-type just like the next highest type only with 30% increased stats?
Hicksimus
Torgue
#12 - 2011-09-07 22:02:54 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
..and after THIRD patch this morning ALL modules on my Tengu wereoffline when I undocked.

The Tengu was not even affected earlier Shocked

And I finally had enough and unsubbed an hour ago. All 3 accounts. After 19 months of Skillpoints.

Really, enough is enough.




Heh, I changed ammo in space in my tempest today and it told me I couldn't do that, then my guns where empty, the ammo was gone and they couldn't be reloaded. Working as intended I suppose.

Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you? Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#13 - 2011-09-07 22:03:50 UTC
Sumos Tigerclaw wrote:
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Sumos Tigerclaw wrote:
I agree but I'm afraid its too late. EvE was abandonded and died a while ago. Some of us are still lingering around the body foolishly hoping it will come back to life.


the 40k players on right now would like a word with you


You mean the 1k players. The other 39k are bots and alts.


this is what delusion looks like ladies and gentlemen

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#14 - 2011-09-07 22:04:21 UTC
Mehrdad Kor-Azor wrote:
T2 Harby!
T2 Cane!
T2 Drake!
T2 Myrm!

That is all.


fark the cane and drake, but i'll take the t2 harby and myrm

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#15 - 2011-09-07 22:06:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Denidil wrote:
Sumos Tigerclaw wrote:
You mean the 1k players. The other 39k are bots and alts.


this is what delusion looks like ladies and gentlemen



Indeed last week (afternoon Pacific Time) when the server crashed with 26,000 on, only 16,000 ever came back on and it was down for only 3 minutes for a quick reboot.

VERY telling there methinks.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#16 - 2011-09-07 22:15:05 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Denidil wrote:
Sumos Tigerclaw wrote:
You mean the 1k players. The other 39k are bots and alts.


this is what delusion looks like ladies and gentlemen



Indeed last week (afternoon Pacific Time) when the server crashed with 26,000 on, only 16,000 ever came back on and it was down for only 3 minutes for a quick reboot.

VERY telling there methinks.


yeah.. bots would reconnect faster than players, jackass. they're SOFTWARE.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Trolls Troll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2011-09-07 22:30:30 UTC
Denidil wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Denidil wrote:
Sumos Tigerclaw wrote:
You mean the 1k players. The other 39k are bots and alts.


this is what delusion looks like ladies and gentlemen



Indeed last week (afternoon Pacific Time) when the server crashed with 26,000 on, only 16,000 ever came back on and it was down for only 3 minutes for a quick reboot.

VERY telling there methinks.


yeah.. bots would reconnect faster than players, jackass. they're SOFTWARE.


I get so much lolz from seeing you constantly defend CCP in every post, it warms my cockles.
Raneru
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#18 - 2011-09-07 22:56:31 UTC
David Grogan wrote:

- Dramiel needs a mass increase to bring it inline with other interceptors


Its not an interceptor, its a pirate frigate.
Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-09-07 23:05:28 UTC
I agree with a lot of the OP and some of the others here (as a heavy user of drones, the drones situation is pissing me off mightily atm), however:-

I think CCP should finish Incarna first.

Yes, that means I think they should put all hands on deck to fix EVE - get Incarna with the racial CQs and some kind of shared spaces (even if they don't "do" anything just yet), and something with the equivalent functionality of the old Hangar view.

Then immediately go on the offensive with the OP list (and more - e.g. doing more iterations on "forgotten" elements like FW).

CCP have really got to stop farting about. After 8 years EVE should be a polished game, not the somewhat rickety construction it is at the moment.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#20 - 2011-09-07 23:09:37 UTC
Trolls Troll wrote:


I get so much lolz from seeing you constantly defend CCP in every post, it warms my cockles.


then maybe you should read more of my posts jackass

hint: linked post shows me attacking them. i just don't attack them in irrational bullshit fashions like you do

when they legitimately deserve to have their arse chewed, i'll have at them. but when it's bullshit you extract from your nether regions because your brain isn't functioning then i'm going to call you out.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
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