EVE General Discussion

Is there some reason why EVE does not use stick and rudder space flying? Yes I realize that there is no Air/Oxygen in space but that does not mean the afterburners/Microwarpdrives could not be directional.

To me it would cause a great many more technical battles to occur

Just my thoughts.

Ok but your talking about pointing in space and doing double clicks. I am talking about holding down keys for your movement. the longer you hold down the key the more you move in the direction. Same if you had a key for momentum or speed. The turning radius of your ship would show a slower change due to the size ofthe ship.

The space battles would depend more on the individual than the warp in of the ship.

Real time movement would require a large amount of server updates from and to the client. The resulting traffic would be infeasible to maintain.

Though I would like to see a somewhat better method of manoeuvring in space than double clicking somewhere and the orbit, approach and keep at range commands.

Edit: Maybe make a compromise and allow tick time based keyboard/mouse/joystick movement.

This idea is, and always has been pants-on-head-ruhtarded. No, your idea is not unique. It's still just as stupid an idea as when everyone else has posted it. Learn the basic game mechanics. Do the tutorials. THEN make stupid suggestions here.

please forgive my ignorance on this one, but why cant ccp just buy a bunch of new hardware? is that not the problem? why cant lag be solved that way? if someone could give me like a really brief explaination of this it would be much appreciated

Yes it is, once per second. The client is smoothing things out to give you the impression of proper movement.



It's just a different way to handle all the timers in game in the same manner.

CCP has a supercomputer class set of processing power. Quite literally, millions of calculations/sec have to be processed when there are hundreds of ships in a system engaged. Every ship's velocity, position, EHP, DPS, cap, etc etc has to be calculated with regard to every other ship on grid.

And that does not even touch on the network bandwidth issues they are facing handling traffic from all over the world to simulate instantaneous fighting.

So no, they can't buy new hardware.

Hi Karl, I understand exactly what you are saying. With the rifter you are doing alot. I get that, really I do. IT would just seem alot smoother experience with a stick and rudder control system.

You're the captain of the ship, not it's helmsman. The physics engine was built with that in mind, and thus is unsuitable for stick and rudder stuff due to years and years worth of design decisions going in a different direction.

I'm sure they could cram it in there if they really wanted to, but it would end up a half-assed feature that doesn't fit the game.

Because you suck at properly filing stuff (bad ideas should be in F&I, not GD) let's give you a less trolling answer.
Server cycles are 1 Hz. That's 1 tick per second. In other words, EVERYONE always has a minimum of 1 second lag. Stick and rudder controls require there be pretty close to zero lag. Also consider, in a system that often lags out with only a 1hz cycle, what would happen if you added a CONSTANT stream of motion calculations to it? Not only is it a stupid idea from a game mechanics perspective (i.e., do the tutorials before you post stupid ideas in the wrong forums), it is absolutely impossible from a technical perspective. And no, buying new server hardware will not help... CCP has stated that millions of dollars of new hardware will grant almost no improvements (thus they have a whole team who's sole full time job is to optimize software to improve performance.)