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Gas -- Questions

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Woeful Animation
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#1 - 2013-05-02 19:24:29 UTC
Explorer by nature I have finally started to venture (no pun intended) into the low sec areas and continue my exploration. Much to my surprise I find Ladar sites and see them as missed opportunities.

BUT.

I have researched gas production and I always seem to find confusing and contradicting information. Some things I think I know.

1. The Venture has bonuses that encourage gas mining. The fit is easy, the modules can be picked up fairly cheap, and while the skill gave me sticker shock at first, 25 Million or so, doesn't seem that expensive.

2. High sec gas mining isn't worth the trouble, (the general consensus.)

3. Null sec gas mining highly profitable (and dangerous for the high sec carebear sort).

4. Assume I live in a high sec pocket near with easy access to low sec and less than 10 jumps from null sec areas.

Questions:

1. Can I sell the stuff the low-sec gases for a profit. Is there a market other than Jita?

2. Can I simply sell the gas as is where is? Can I store it in a hanger and haul it to market when the price is right. (Assume that I had a sell price in mind and could afford to wait the market out)

3. Is it worth it to put gas on sale as a buy contract near a null sec pocket. There doesn't appear to be a market, but that doesn't mean someone won't buy it to supplement their own production.

4. Assume my trusty Imicus jogged a few jumps into null-sec for a sneak and peek at the gas and my trusty Venture followed a few minutes later. Are there rats ready to blow me away? Will the local null sec pocket owners care and become angry? What is the protocol? Do I announce in local that I am only here for the extra gas? Would there be a tax or a tariff?

5. Assume that I get some valuable gas and assume that I know that it must be processed in null sec. Since this is black market work, how do I make contact. Is there a protocol? Not sure how to proceed.

Finally, I am trying to decide if this is worth the trouble. I can't find trustworthy information on the net. It seems to conflict. People in my Corps all have varying view points. What's the real answer.

Thanks.
Eliana Eros
Sentinel Event
Hatakani Trade Winds Combine
#2 - 2013-05-02 19:48:24 UTC
Do not announce yourself in local. The rest, i will leave to more gas lovers than i.

♥'s and Glomps for everyone...well almost everyone.

Ze Goggles

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#3 - 2013-05-02 22:20:37 UTC
I'd say local is your enemy here and you are better of sneaking into C1-3 wormholes. The gasses there are profitable and marketable enough to export to hisec.

You'd have to read up on Sleeper mechanics in Ladar sites, those buggers appear 20 minutes after you 'activated' the site (initiated a warp on it, may be cancelled). If you find a good hole that seems unoccupied and has a bunch of sites, activate them all, jump to hisec and come back in a BC to kill the Sleepers.

After that, invading players or inhabitants logging on are your only concern, there is no further PVE danger. If you do not AFK, spam d-scan and have proper overview settings, getting away from anyone that drops/uncloaks on grid is relatively trivial in a Venture.
Sohl Ni-Zha
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-05-02 23:32:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Sohl Ni-Zha
Usually buy-orders for gases are in Jita 4-4, rarely in other big trade-hubs and with worse price. While you may put gas on market/create contract anywhere, it is better to find someone who is buying the gas to supply their constant need for it -- booster production corporations.

I'll give you an example. Go subscribe onto Big G's Drugs mailing list and receive (usually weekly) update on current gas buy-out prices of all Cyto gases (sell prices of their end products are also listed). Then when you feel the price is right, close to that month's high or not drastically lower than what's in 4-4, you can contact the guy/his corp and make a contract.

They used to buy Cyto stored in any highsec station and IIRC recently they started doing the same for lowsec. Still, even if highsec only, it usually means a lot of time and risk saving -- if you don't have a Freighter, regular Industrial or Blockade Runner are to small for hauling a lot of gas if the region in which you harvest is far away from Jita (if you have smaller quantities using Venture with MWD and a cloak is not a bad idea).

Usually there are corps that produce drugs in and around Ladar regions, so you can 'ask around' for additional buyers.

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