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Odyssey effect on Super Prices
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Chief Ambassador
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-04-30 12:20:17 UTC
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#2 - 2013-04-30 12:58:20 UTC
Depends on if they're T2 rigged.

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Sabre Rolf
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-04-30 13:13:23 UTC
idk how goo prices should affect super prices, but I guess the dropping mineral price due the coming changes will result in lower build costs.So if there are actually enough builders to fill the market the prices for supers could drop
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#4 - 2013-04-30 13:17:19 UTC
Sabre Rolf wrote:
idk how goo prices should affect super prices

Ability to pay.

Many a Titan has been purchased with moon gold.
Rob Lorence
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-04-30 13:23:06 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Sabre Rolf wrote:
idk how goo prices should affect super prices

Ability to pay.

Many a Titan has been purchased with moon gold.


The ability to pay (more players having more money) is not the same as prices dropping as stated by the OP
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#6 - 2013-04-30 13:39:12 UTC
Rob Lorence wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Sabre Rolf wrote:
idk how goo prices should affect super prices

Ability to pay.

Many a Titan has been purchased with moon gold.


The ability to pay (more players having more money) is not the same as prices dropping as stated by the OP

And if people have less money, what happens to super prices then?
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-04-30 14:37:52 UTC
I don't see how demand for supers could possibly tank anymore than it has, and the very few alliances who subsidized supercap purchases are well placed to continue to do so, tech just being an easy answer to a problem with many solutions for the top-end alliances.

If anything odyssey will drive conflict, and thereby drive demand through their use and destruction.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Chief Ambassador
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-04-30 14:51:39 UTC
I think some of you are missing the Elephant in the room.
Major buff to mineral volume, including Trit in null. Should make supers much less costly to build.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-04-30 15:04:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Varius Xeral
Chief Ambassador wrote:
I think some of you are missing the Elephant in the room.
Major buff to mineral volume, including Trit in null. Should make supers much less costly to build.


Right, because you included the moon change without any explanation, so we were trying to figure out wtf you were talking about.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Dasquirrel715
Aurora.
The Initiative.
#10 - 2013-04-30 18:27:49 UTC
In all honesty I'd bet that they will probably stay roughly where they are. With the coming mineral changes and the impending large amounts of lowends, we will likely see a reduction in mineral cost; however, with the changes in ice prices there will definitely be an increase in cost simply to fuel the tower they are built on and the towers the BPO's are researched on.
Sabre Rolf
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-04-30 18:53:56 UTC
Dasquirrel715 wrote:
however, with the changes in ice prices there will definitely be an increase in cost simply to fuel the tower they are built on and the towers the BPO's are researched on.


yep, THAT's gona make the difference
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-04-30 19:02:08 UTC
Sabre Rolf wrote:
Dasquirrel715 wrote:
however, with the changes in ice prices there will definitely be an increase in cost simply to fuel the tower they are built on and the towers the BPO's are researched on.


yep, THAT's gona make the difference


Ya, I've never built so much as a cruiser, and that sounds really wrong to me. I would put fuel costs at roughly "negligible" when talking about super production.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
#13 - 2013-05-01 12:12:57 UTC
Well ice is how they get around too, so that may effect demand hence price, big active SC fleets use tons but then 0.0 is quiet, at the moment.

The analogy with rl car sales and fuel/gas prices doesn't really work because if it did then you'd buy a car then stop playing life.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-05-01 15:40:42 UTC
Captain IQ wrote:
The analogy with rl car sales and fuel/gas prices doesn't really work because if it did then you'd buy a car then stop playing life.


This is true. My gut says this might in a large part be shadow nerf to power projection (ie PL), but I'm reserving judgment until we see where the prices for both fuel and moonpoo stabilize.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#15 - 2013-05-02 13:59:37 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Rob Lorence wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Sabre Rolf wrote:
idk how goo prices should affect super prices

Ability to pay.

Many a Titan has been purchased with moon gold.


The ability to pay (more players having more money) is not the same as prices dropping as stated by the OP

And if people have less money, what happens to super prices then?


What happens is, people pool their ISK for their first titan, then a 2nd and so on and so fourth.
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-05-02 15:17:49 UTC
Capitals and freighters will drop (should drop) in price, Jump Freighters as well.

The thing that makes Super Caps expensive is they are time stamped and in limited production. Also, they can't really be stored or stock piled so it isn't like someone will have 15 Avatar Titans in back up.
Mr Dynamic
Isk Ready
#17 - 2013-05-02 16:23:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Dynamic
Sisohiv wrote:
Capitals and freighters will drop (should drop) in price, Jump Freighters as well.

The thing that makes Super Caps expensive is they are time stamped and in limited production. Also, they can't really be stored or stock piled so it isn't like someone will have 15 Avatar Titans in back up.


HEY GUYS WHAT IS A HOLDING PILOT CAN SOMEONE TELL ME PLS RUS )))


also, have you heard of a Capital Ship Maintenence Array?
MAYBE YOU SHOULD EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE YOU PRETEND TO HAVE AN OPINION

*disclaimer* I don't know if anyone is retareded enough to leave a titan / super in a box that is a CSAA

every other bid in this thread is an alt of mine, pick the cheapest one and I'll pay that much. 
Chief Ambassador
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-05-03 10:53:33 UTC
I project that the price of supers will go down by around 30%.
Gary Bell
Therapy.
The Initiative.
#19 - 2013-05-03 12:58:07 UTC
Mr Dynamic wrote:
Sisohiv wrote:
Capitals and freighters will drop (should drop) in price, Jump Freighters as well.

The thing that makes Super Caps expensive is they are time stamped and in limited production. Also, they can't really be stored or stock piled so it isn't like someone will have 15 Avatar Titans in back up.


HEY GUYS WHAT IS A HOLDING PILOT CAN SOMEONE TELL ME PLS RUS )))


also, have you heard of a Capital Ship Maintenence Array?
MAYBE YOU SHOULD EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE YOU PRETEND TO HAVE AN OPINION

*disclaimer* I don't know if anyone is retareded enough to leave a titan / super in a box that is a CSAA



Umm.. Yeah you dont build supers I assume.. Most people aside from maybe the very biggest producers would ever use holding toons to store caps.. as that represents a huge isk investment just sitting there..

Also alot of the bigger alliances do use CSMAs they are just very tightly controlled and usually not left there for long periods of time.. But your average producer.. 90 percent of them just build to order so..

CAPS LOCK IS COOL.. derp
Chief Ambassador
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-05-04 02:00:00 UTC
What will happen to the price of supers?

1. Stay the same.
2. Drop ( by what % )
3. Go up.
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