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CCP can take lessons from Riot Games

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-04-30 21:29:50 UTC
And make New Eden a happy meadow where everyone can frolic around and nobody will ever cry Big smile

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-04-26-riot-dont-ban-your-players-reform-them

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-04-30 21:39:57 UTC
This article is relevant to me interests, but I am too tired to read it right now...please remind me to do that tomorrow.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-04-30 23:15:45 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
This article is relevant to me interests, but I am too tired to read it right now...please remind me to do that tomorrow.


Consider yourself reminded Blink

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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#4 - 2013-04-30 23:33:17 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
This article is relevant to me interests, but I am too tired to read it right now...please remind me to do that tomorrow.



This, May read tomoz Too long :P Roll

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Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2013-05-01 04:45:23 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
This article is relevant to me interests, but I am too tired to read it right now...please remind me to do that tomorrow.


hey remember to read that tomorrow
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-05-01 05:06:11 UTC
Heh. so we have crowd control productions and riot. Surely they are the antithesis of each other?

A bit too long but seems interesting and a novel approach. Should we set up these kinds of courts in eve and let the buying of judges begin? P

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-05-01 12:18:29 UTC
Graygor wrote:
Heh. so we have crowd control productions and riot. Surely they are the antithesis of each other?

A bit too long but seems interesting and a novel approach. Should we set up these kinds of courts in eve and let the buying of judges begin? P


I will be the super judge Straight

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Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-05-01 12:40:56 UTC
Isn't relevant for several reasons; firstly, LoL and EVE having very different parameters for what constitutes a behavioral infraction, which is what this article is mostly covering.

Secondly, that such a system as the Tribunal would not just be used 'for the betterment of the community' but also manipulated by alliances to suit their agendas.

Riot are doing very good work and their approach to tackling toxic in-game behavior is commendable, but not applicable to EVE I feel.

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#9 - 2013-05-01 13:08:25 UTC
Halete wrote:
Isn't relevant for several reasons; firstly, LoL and EVE having very different parameters for what constitutes a behavioral infraction, which is what this article is mostly covering.

Secondly, that such a system as the Tribunal would not just be used 'for the betterment of the community' but also manipulated by alliances to suit their agendas.

Riot are doing very good work and their approach to tackling toxic in-game behavior is commendable, but not applicable to EVE I feel.


I take your side on this argument.

The article is marvelous information, and MOBA style games have a special set of behaviors where swearing amongst other things just make it possible to you at most get a ban/account suspensions.

In EVE , the whole mindset is different. We have these "powerblocs" that actually influence each other both INGAME and out of game (The Dreaded Metagame).

Like all institutions that have even a modicum of "power" (power defined as the actual real ability to influence things for your own gain, whatever they may be) we see the same here in EVE. The game is fixed in time and space in a single permanent shard, actions have real influences within the game and even letting your guard down for a bit will turn your dream into molten slag if you build upon the system and reach higher and higher.

Reputation is the only justice system we need. And then, we have people working as sleeper agents posing as reputable entities, worming their way through corporations and alliances. EVE is too much like a Medieval Feudal System to suddenly believe we might evolve into a proto-greek form of Government and justice dispensation.

It is doable though, perhaps in Hi Sec in very well defined spaces or a sudden erosion of the current power base turning us into something like the EVE Online Chinese shard with "friendly" people all over.

But with the ability to grab a "real" piece of "land" and fight for it in all manners possible, the only thing we could do to turn eve into PC Land and Hello Kitty happiness of Justice would be to simply turn everything into Hi Sec, thus ruining the game.

Anyone remembers Chribba´s visit to the Chinese Shard? I dunno the state of the game now, but back then it seemed a vastly different EVE Game, not necessarily better or worst, just a completely different game, with the same set of rules as us here.

I think EVE is by Itself a pretty different monster. What works in other online games can´t necessarily be applied here, and even then it might be completely detrimental to it.

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-05-01 15:27:04 UTC
Churlish behaviour online is generally due to the anonymity it typically confers.

Remove the anonymity and you remove the trash talking morons freedom to be trash talking morons.
Most people don't have the courage to be abusive if there's an actual real life consequence to it.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-05-01 17:16:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
So..now that I read it, although the topic sounded promising, the article is unfortunately a bit of a let down.
They stopped when they reached the point where things started to get interesting.
So how exactly do they modify the behaviour of their players? Considering that a lot of gamers spend a lot of time in those games and are highly motivated to achieve something there, you could almost call it an " ideal therapeutic setting".
The idea to modify behaviour by either altering perception or cognition sounds very reasonable.
Giving it some more thought, games might even be an effective tool to treat trauma, phobias or even some personality disorders.

The future will be bright....or dark.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Alara IonStorm
#12 - 2013-05-01 18:00:49 UTC
Crowd Control Productions and Riot Games...

A match made in heaven.