EVE General Discussion

So say we all.

Regarding this WIS-thing, there are so many factors that need to be considered, often times only parts of the whole story are revealed at one particular time rendering the mixed message a topic for speculation and hot debate. During the FF2013 I got a much better expectation and requirements for WIS than I had before, but the puzzle pieces was scattered throughout the whole FanFest through the different presentations providing each a separate window into the processes behind EVE development.

I found it quite interesting when Hilmar asked the whole crowd if they wanted to see progress on the door only 1 guy booed, but since the expressed emotion was opposite to the quiet, made it seem like a more supported course of action that it actually was. This shows that all the releases since Incarna has brought the game to a more realistic "launching platform" for Walking in stations than the rather miserably state it was before, many swiss cheese holes have been filled even if more remains(and always will).

That being said technology takes time to develop. If you start from scratch making a game engine and then make a game, a large portion of developer time will be spent on just making the technology that drives the game, the engine. If you make it general enough you can reuse this in later projects driving down development time.

If I understand if correctly CCP's gameengine/platform/techonology CARBON appears to be something they use in both EVE and WoD, you could say that the technology for WIS is still being worked on through WoD since EVE is not pursuing that at the moment.

Even if we would be happy with just inviting another player into our room and chatting through the regular channel CCP Bayesian appear to be more bold in his dreams with all that investigating wrecks and stuff, referred to as "the Prototype".

In my mind the WIS, avatar gameplay, offers two roads;
-PvP/PvE: exploring wrecks, welding doors shut, "shooting in stations". At first glance rather resource intensive
-Social/possibly minigames: "strolling in stations", inviting another player into your room, corp meeting and bars Not as high as the above but still medium resource intensive on this arbitrary scale we just invented.

Since the social bit doesn't directly offer the harsh traditional EVE-style it might be a harder sell and to do this whole venture justice a whole release(probably two) would have to be sunk into it, so that the whole picture can be delivered in one shipment. Instead of taking a more staged approach and allowing a team or hell even just a crafty programmer to develop the techology behind the Social-piece first serving as a springboard towards the PvP/PvE challenge.

Then there is the matter of timing, tying it into a release theme. One could argue that it would be nice to have the new POS system, which will replace the current one, before allowing you to walk around in it and since it is "your" new little POS shack you will feel more attached to the interior, something the rebalanced outposts provide aswell since their importance has just been elevated by the latest improvement to them probably increasing the usuage of them.

The important thing to note however is that CCP appears to not want to do any half-assed attempt at anything anymore and maybe it's just me but it feels like with the restructuring they've gone through lately they are more effective than they were before, performing better with same amount of time. If all goes well this Odyssey release will be continuing the increase of new subscribers(look at that new jump gate!) so much that a new team can be hired to develop WIS while everyone else does the FIS thing that has worked so well the past

So say we all.


Did someone say something about pirate hats?

Where am I?

am I the only one here who doesn't even use that pointless CQ? I mean seriously, do you like walking in station? Change game and problem fixed.

I hope not. I don't want content in stations, content should be in space... it would be annoying to have to walk around in stations to do smuggling, etc.

Incarna would be perfectly fine as a purely social add-on, so corps could have corp meetings and players could have a more personal chat than an IM chat box.

A bar, corp meeting room, and possibly a game room would add a ton of immersion to the game while not taking away from the "real" game at all. It would be an alternative to sitting in a stagnant station ship-spinning, which is the most mindless and anti-social activity in the game (yet we all do it).

The first :18 months: were bad enough.

Stick to spaceships. If i wanted to play dress up dolls, i'd buy a barbie.

Last time they started to open the door the game almost collapsed. I dont give a damn about what's happening behind the door. Actually I dont even have the Captain Quarters preloaded.

I play this game because of the internet spaceships, nothing more. Since CCP recognized they were going on the wrong direction the number of subscribers went up again and EVE actually reborn with a tremendous amount of new features being add in every new expansion.

Let it stay like it is. Let the door stay closed.

You are forced to create a portrait to enter the game if you do not have one. Anyone without a portrait is a forum alt that has not logged in to the game since Incarna.


/the more you know....

If EVE ever starts to die, I would like to think that the hardcore players would all band together to buy it from CCP and run it on an FTP basis, like that "other" space MMO....