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Hilmar; please "Open the Door".....
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Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
#41 - 2013-04-29 13:34:09 UTC
This Collectors Edition comes with yet more shoes and trousers.....why?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#42 - 2013-04-29 13:48:11 UTC
J3ssica Alba wrote:
What I don't get is how can they go from "we have 200 pieces of clothing ready to put in game" to ... no new clothing for the past year. Roll



Dolly dress-up and emoting fetishist detected.

It's because no-one is working on WIS. That's what "shelved" means.



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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#43 - 2013-04-29 13:49:52 UTC
Odds are they have the items -- they just fear releasing them because it'll cause a ragestorm. Even if the asset is already complete, vetted, bug-free...

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Tiberius StarGazer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-04-29 15:04:31 UTC
Considering it has been said a number of time now, Incarna is not a priority at the moment. Other things are.

Also it has been stated that if expanson on this is done, it will mean they set up an independent team to set this up.

Still, I would love to be able to communicate with holograms of other avatars in my quarters while discussing deals and things.

I'm sure incarna will go on eventually, but not now.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#45 - 2013-04-29 15:06:43 UTC
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:


In order for WiS to be worth the time and money it would have to be overhauled in such a way that it's practically a separate game from EVE. Doing so would divert CCPs attention away from their other projects just for the sake of Second Life IN SPAAAACE which as we saw from the tears and rage after Incarna, few people actually want.


On that note, I would love to see other EVE players hanging out somewhere in Second Life which already has the tools to build interesting avatar spaces. Doomed Ship for example is pretty cool, would be neat to hang out in an internet spaceship with other people who like internet spaceships when I'm temporarily tired of flying an internet spaceship and need a break.

But then there would be no tie-in to eve. I could not run an establishment where contraband is sold to someone, then tell my friends in space who bought it so they can blow him up and return the contraband so I can sell it again.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#46 - 2013-04-29 15:23:00 UTC
ColdCutz wrote:
But what if they open the door and it's the same room?



Worse, you open that door, and there's another YOU in the same room, but with only half the IQ, and then he follows you around everywhere in a noob ship making fart noises in local.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
General Jung
Asgard Intelligence Services
#47 - 2013-04-29 15:29:39 UTC  |  Edited by: General Jung
Dear Forum,

I am also disappointed that we had not seen anything more about the real Incarna. Maybe it only due to marketing reasons, and it is a lie that they are not working currently on Walking in Stations. Because it would be negligent.

EvE needs that social-economic expansions, and more immersion in general. Of course without dropping the envolvement of space, where is very much to do.

I support CCPs vision of an integrated Universe with more immersion and innovative storytelling.

I think it was also a bad idea to sell Captains Quarter as Incarna, where you can buy monocoles for 30 euros to watch yourself in a mirror. That really splited the community, because much people won´t understand the possibilities of that social-economic station environment anymore. I believe in that visions of an additional linked sandbox, from social-connections over talk2agents storyline-telling and much more which could envolve.

One reason because I be keen on CCP is, because CCP has visions which is currently pretty rarely in the game industries. Bear up, believe in it CCP - I do.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#48 - 2013-04-29 15:31:55 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
ColdCutz wrote:
But what if they open the door and it's the same room?



Worse, you open that door, and there's another YOU in the same room, but with only half the IQ, and then he follows you around everywhere in a noob ship making fart noises in local.


Are you saying it will be full of Goon Alts?
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#49 - 2013-04-29 15:40:25 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:


But CCP can't be seen to be forgetting flying in ships for walking in stations.


True, but not appearing to finish something that's already been started is equally uninspiring to loyal fans. Attention

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#50 - 2013-04-29 15:46:51 UTC
True, Felicity.

They just need to be less aggressive with monetizing the shiny new feature, if they decide to follow that path. ;)

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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-04-29 16:08:01 UTC
They just need to ignore the guys like the one that called me a fetishist -_-
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Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#52 - 2013-04-29 16:26:33 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:


But CCP can't be seen to be forgetting flying in ships for walking in stations.


True, but not appearing to finish something that's already been started is equally uninspiring to loyal fans. Attention


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Deborah Bat-Zeev
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2013-04-29 16:27:42 UTC
He won't. The usual reaction of CCP devs to any WiS-related question nowadays is giggles and thigh-slapping and "Yeah sure, we will think about it".

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2013-04-29 16:42:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Yes !

Open the door !
Right into open space !

Let them all die and make the characters unplayable !


Anyway, on a serious note ... the best part about all this whining is the fact
that it's simply *not gonna happen* in the near or medium future.

But hey ... keep whining, it's enjoyable. ^_^
General Jung
Asgard Intelligence Services
#55 - 2013-04-29 16:46:57 UTC  |  Edited by: General Jung
Solstice Project wrote:
Yes !

Open the door !
Right into open space !

Let them all die and make the characters unplayable !


Anyway, on a serious note ... the best part about all this whining is the fact
that it's simply *not gonna happen* in the near or medium future.

But hey ... keep whining, it's enjoyable. ^_^

The questions is which faction is whining.

I think the majority of Incarna supporting part of EvE-Players has shown that they are pretty carefull with not harming the envolvement of the space.

I already stated myself for envolvement, but it is your good right to not do so. I want that EvE survive and gaining more complexity.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#56 - 2013-04-29 16:51:03 UTC
i opened the door once...













it lead to a closet filled with DUST.

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Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#57 - 2013-04-29 16:59:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuka Solo
+1 to WiS.

I want my strip clubs, casinos, bars. I want to be able to break into "that asshat's" clone facility, item storage and or capsule and busta-cap in his ass. Or her ass, lets not be sexist here....

I want to mug the amarr middle class on my PI city's street corners.... then run them over with my hover-car.

I want to be able to dock up my spaceboat, pull out a shotgun and kill that station camper.

Failing a wardec, I want to go on a homicide spree with my side-arms... dressed in skimpy outfits and armor pads.

CCP can't have the ultimate sci-fi anything without sexy ladies in skin-tight leathers, corsets and side-arms and tons of makeup killing people indiscriminately while laughing at the stupid spaceships outside the windows.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2013-04-29 17:06:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
General Jung wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Yes !

Open the door !
Right into open space !

Let them all die and make the characters unplayable !


Anyway, on a serious note ... the best part about all this whining is the fact
that it's simply *not gonna happen* in the near or medium future.

But hey ... keep whining, it's enjoyable. ^_^

The questions is which faction is whining.

I think the majority of Incarna supporting part of EvE-Players has shown that they are pretty carefull with not harming the envolvement of the space.

I already stated myself for envolvement, but it is your good right to not do so. I want that EvE survive and gaining more complexity.
Well, we all want that. But by looking at many of these people, (avatar-fans)
i don't ever see avatar gameplay add any kind of meaningfull complexity.

There's no playerbase supporting this. I only see creeps asking to have high resolution virtual figures to look at
and interact with eachother ... which creeps me out.

I, myself, would consider me being a no-lifer, but these people top that by far.

Sorry.

I'm sure not all are like that, but a good part of the avatar lovers really creep me out and i'm happy
about them not having any actual influence onto the game. Not only that, it's reasonable to believe
that a lot of these people are carebears. It's also reasonable to believe that a lot of people who
would JOIN because of avatar-gameplay are carebears.

Imagine what happens when these carebears undock and get ganked.

No. Thank you.


edit: btw, i'd love avatar gameplay ... for being able to play games with eachother, looking at things,
shooting people in station (not gonna happen anyway, because :carebears:) ... but what i really,
absolutely not care about with avatar-gameplay is "social interaction" beyond playing poker or something.

That's just one step too far. If i want to interact with something that looks human, i'll interact with real humans.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#59 - 2013-04-29 17:21:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
I've been pro WiS since well before Incarna. When I started playing I said Eve wasn't for me... I said I wanted an Avatar, but my friend showed me the footage from the old Incarna prototype that was being showcased in like 2006. So I figured I would wait around.

I love Eve now, Avatar or no. But it pisses me off that they've promised so much and delivered so little. Open the god damn door already.

Those of you saying WiS wont add any meaningful game play should take a look at the wreck diving prototype idea. There's more content there than in most of highsec.

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Concurssi Mellenar
Doomheim
#60 - 2013-04-29 17:25:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Concurssi Mellenar
Arduemont wrote:
I've been pro WiS since well before Incarna. When I started playing I said Eve wasn't for me... I said I wanted an Avatar, but my friend showed me the footage from the old Incarna prototype that was being showcased in like 2006. So I figured I would wait around.

I love Eve now, Avatar or no. But it pisses me off that they've promised so much and delivered so little. Open the god damn door already.

Those of you saying WiS wont add any meaningful game play should take a look at the wreck diving prototype idea. There's more content there than in most of highsec.
Just look at the whining in this thread and you'll see why they won't do that. There are so many people who think that WiS, regardless of content, will detract from the game, that "EVE is the wrong game if you want to do that".

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