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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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EVE Stig
Doomheim
#641 - 2011-11-02 01:00:04 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Zleon Leigh wrote:
@OP No, never wanted WiS. Still don't.

Just in case you were counting votes


The OP isnt counting votes, just likes (I gave you one btw)


Not really setting out to count anything. Just to prove there is support for CCP to continue with some sort of WiS work in the background while working on FiS.

Seemed have accomplished that quite nicely if I do say so myself! Big smile

Issler



Except every few posts you count how many people ARE fot WiS and who arent... Im for WiS, Im not for lying supporters of it.

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#642 - 2011-11-02 01:01:49 UTC
I personally hold no strong opinion against or for mentioned feature.
Alpheias
The Khaleph
#643 - 2011-11-02 02:12:36 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:


It does make me hope shooting folks in the face is added to WiS soon if it comes back.



Know what? I'd support that. I'd support anything that would let me shoot YOU in the face.



Cool!

I'll count you as pro WiS then!

Issler


I'll be pro-WiS when it is implemented. Not before.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

Pent'nor
#644 - 2011-11-02 02:25:55 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:

I've run almost every year and I have thought about it. I will if I decide I can make the time commitment. If I do I have no expectations of doing any better than I have in the last two elections. I think the majority of who would be likely to vote for someone like me aren't on the forums and not interested in supporting the CSM so I'm not sure how to reach and motivate them to become involved,

Or its entirely possible I just wouldn't have that many supporters! (I'm very willing to acknowledge that possibility! Lol)

Issler


A solely pro wis platform probably would not work, but say someone was from faction warfare with alot of ideas about fw and was also a supporter of wis may work. In the next election, I fully expect to see many candidates saying they support wis or not. I'd want someone that runs on a platform just like how I want incarna developed. Mainly fis stuff, but also in support of wis. But of course the virtually no cordination between the smaller groups such as fw will mean the odds are against them because many candidates will run and then split the vote.

But thats another topic...
Taiwanistan
#645 - 2011-11-02 02:50:00 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
i take the facts and the state of incaran/cq as it is now, add to it ccp's track record, and arrive at the conclusion that wis should be put down like a sick race horse

the winter patch is not new content, it's long overdue fixes, new fis content still need to be made but 2012 will be the year of dust as ccp will be on overdrive making sure dust suceeds (lots of sunk monies riding on it)
in any case it will be a long time before we see any wis stuff, hell fix mining first


Edit: Inappropriate content removed, CCP Phantom.

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."

Mekela
Vinyl Roid
#646 - 2011-11-02 02:53:04 UTC
I would like the People that say FiS only to please tell how they are going to change FiS to make it exciting for someone like me.

I been playing the game sence 2006. I have done WH. Null, low and high sec actvities. I have been in huge alliances, moderate corps and have done stuff pertty much solo.

To me nothing really changes much about FiS. No matter what they do about Sov or Faction Warefare it still comes down to a simple hunt and hunted dynamic. Sure sometimes it can be quite exhilerating to fight a close battle where the outcome is unknow, but most of the time it is quite boring. Adding new ships isn't going to change much it will simply require tweaking tactics not changing them. Unless they really change some rules nothing is going to change in the game no matter how much FiS they do. And if they do change rules I can only imagine how much crying some people are going to do.

I was looking forward to WiS because this was going to be different. I was looking forward to PI because this was going to be different. The mini games, the interactions, things would be different it wouldn't be the same stuff I have been doing for almost 6 years. Now CCP screwed up majorly in doing these new products, and lost subs because of it. Now they are going quickly go back to FiS which means nothing is going to change.

CCP is still screwing up imo, they learned the wrong lesson. I hope they figure out the right lesson soon or there problems are only going to continue.

PS I am not avocating they don't do any FiS, what I am hoping is they realize that FiS only is not moving forward and if you aren't moving forwad you are falling behind.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#647 - 2011-11-02 04:11:48 UTC
Mekela wrote:
I would like the People that say FiS only to please tell how they are going to change FiS to make it exciting for someone like me.


Quit, take a break. Then youll come back in a while. Its what we all do.

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Stella SGP
#648 - 2011-11-02 04:36:57 UTC
Mekela wrote:
I would like the People that say FiS only to please tell how they are going to change FiS to make it exciting for someone like me.

Aha! Engine Trails! Now that's some real content for you! Its going to make FiS so awesome!
Jita Alt666
#649 - 2011-11-02 05:39:55 UTC
Mekela wrote:
I would like the People that say FiS only to please tell how they are going to change FiS to make it exciting for someone like me.


I would like the people who say that FIS is not for them to tell me what they like about Eve Online.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#650 - 2011-11-02 06:41:00 UTC
Mekela wrote:
I would like the People that say FiS only to please tell how they are going to change FiS to make it exciting for someone like me

It sounds like Eve is not the right game for you.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

luZk
Fivrelde Corp
#651 - 2011-11-02 08:06:39 UTC
I want WiS, no matter how many times the same 5 people in this thread tell me over and over again its a bad idea. Infact that even makes me want it more.

http://i.imgur.com/1dl4DM6.jpg

Daron Rostar
#652 - 2011-11-02 09:31:47 UTC
luZk wrote:
I want WiS, no matter how many times the same 5 people in this thread tell me over and over again its a bad idea. Infact that even makes me want it more.


This.
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#653 - 2011-11-02 09:35:14 UTC
I'm all for it, but not in it's current state.
Open the damn door! Lol
Oswald Patsee
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#654 - 2011-11-02 09:59:55 UTC
Mekela wrote:
I would like the People that say FiS only to please tell how they are going to change FiS to make it exciting for someone like me.


Here's how:

1. Log on to EVE
2. Click on static door waaaay in the background behind your ship floating (or spinning Big smile) in your hangar.
3. Walk to family room, den, man cave, chick pad, emo command center, etc..
4. Press ALT -Tab
5. Log on to Second Life
6. Press ALT - Tab
7. Log off of EVE
8. Move forward in the game someone like you really wants to play

EVE is about flying in space. Anything else is a different game that just screws up EVE and flying in space.
Khors
Doomheim
#655 - 2011-11-02 10:47:42 UTC
All these bitter vets that never even log on, let alone undock, stating that eve is about flying spaceships is hilarious.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#656 - 2011-11-02 11:53:54 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Taiwanistan wrote:
i take the facts and the state of incaran/cq as it is now, add to it ccp's track record, and arrive at the conclusion that wis should be put down like a sick race horse

the winter patch is not new content, it's long overdue fixes, new fis content still need to be made but 2012 will be the year of dust as ccp will be on overdrive making sure dust suceeds (lots of sunk monies riding on it)
in any case it will be a long time before we see any wis stuff, hell fix mining first

just stfu until then and wait like everybody else or buy a monocle to show your support

but you won't cus this little soapbox is all you got


As for WiS, players wanted what was shown in Ambulation, not the current CQ engine. Also don't include NEX with WiS. NEX was added in at the last moment by CCP.


Jita Alt666 wrote:
Mekela wrote:
I would like the People that say FiS only to please tell how they are going to change FiS to make it exciting for someone like me.


I would like the people who say that FIS is not for them to tell me what they like about Eve Online.


Ahhh, jumping to the other side of the fence again. WiS supporters have never said they don't want FiS.

I agree with Mekela, I've yet to see any of the WiS nay sayers post any ideas for new FiS specific game content.

Khors wrote:
All these bitter vets that never even log on, let alone undock, stating that eve is about flying spaceships is hilarious.


Good observation and excellent point. I think this is probably closer to the truth:

Quote:
Just a few bitter vets and their alts that never even log on, let alone undock, constantly stating that eve is only about flying spaceships is hilarious.
Ayumi Hinoki
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#657 - 2011-11-02 13:58:02 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Oswald Patsee wrote:
EVE is about flying in space. Anything else is a different game that just screws up EVE and flying in space.

This guy knows what's up.


Sure, trading, industry, exploration, planetary interaction and other fields of EVE Online just ruin the game.

Have you noticed that there are more skill groups than Gunnery, Spaceship Command or Missile Launcher Operation? Even if you don't use them, they exist and are the primary source of income and gameplay style for a lot of players.

Take a look at this, this, this, and also this if you have time, because EVE is not just about flying in space. Is a lot more than that.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#658 - 2011-11-02 14:10:23 UTC
luZk wrote:
I want WiS, no matter how many times the same 5 people in this thread tell me over and over again its a bad idea. Infact that even makes me want it more.


I dont want it no matter many times the same 5 people in this thread tell me over and over again its a good idea. Infact that even makes me want it less.

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#659 - 2011-11-02 14:13:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
Quote:

Jita Alt666 wrote:
Mekela wrote:
I would like the People that say FiS only to please tell how they are going to change FiS to make it exciting for someone like me.


I would like the people who say that FIS is not for them to tell me what they like about Eve Online.


Ahhh, jumping to the other side of the fence again. WiS supporters have never said they don't want FiS.




read that quote again... thats what it says...

Khors wrote:
All these noobs that only joined for WiS, let alone undock, stating that eve is not about flying spaceships is hilarious.


fixt

Ayumi Hinoki wrote:


Take a look at this, this, this, and also this if you have time, because EVE is not just about flying in space. Is a lot more than that.


ah, I misunderstood you, I thought you were intelligent. Given that youre trying to say they have nothing to do with FiS when FiS DRIVES all of the things you linked... yeah sorry, some back with an IQ point or two

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#660 - 2011-11-02 15:46:29 UTC
Haters gona hate

CCP was developing FiS from the begining thats like 2003, right.

All we are not saying CCP should stop working on FiS(not those that i know), but that it fulfill it promises. IS that bad. And as many i am afraid about the implementation of it too.

As we know CCP want EVE to be an ultimate sci-fi simulator.


PS. Didn't play it but i think SecondLife is ****.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude