EVE General Discussion

Servus,

one week ago I decided to download eve and get into the game, based on that i wanted to share some thoughts on that, what i see discussed by the developers on the web all the time is that they want to make eve more accessible for beginners, but from my point of view i would say it is partly the wrong thing to do.

I only started eve because I did read a lot that it is difficult to get into, so I think more players started the game because of this reason instead of another, however there would be options to make the game more accessible for those "other players", but that should in my opinion be put into another layer of the game, there could be a -1 sec space outside of 0.0 sec where some game mechanics are turned of (maybe because of magnetic fields in the space) in that special area they could add spacefight mechanics that are more action orientated (directly be able to fly the ship with joystick) like back in the days of wing commander.

At the beginning of the game you could choose where you want to start, in the simulation orientated middle of the space or at the action orientated outside, however it shoud from that point anward be possible for both players to dig deeper inside the other areas as well.

Thanks for reading, thoughtful feedback welcome.

Harry

i got killed my first week poor guy didnt have a chance haha

This is not the game you're looking for. *jedihandwave*

I'll be playing Star Citizen too, but Eve is not that style, has never been that style and probably never will be that style. You know this coming in, and definitely after playing for a little while (30mins+).

One they stress is not guaranteed to happen. As it's a project a group devs have been doing purely in their own time.

you implants seem to be malfunction, read again and try to catch the meaning

serve issues maybe sometimes are a problem now but not in the future, you need to plan ahead, they would not have started the game in the first place if they would have listened to people who tell them what is possible and what not... actually i played planetside 2 a lot and moved to eve to have a break, latency was not a big issue for me, the game worked perfect and Shows all developers what can be done, I'm sure lot of people told them as well "not possible"

star citizen, not sure about that one yet, it might be good, but i feel it might not be complex enough, we will see when it is finished, I'm not a fan of crowd funding either, it feels like nobody wanted to invest the money in the first place

I'm not really dreaming about other games, eve seems to be perfect for me, however i think the developers want to bring a bigger audience to the game and they should try without hurting the strategic complexity of it

the problem with star citizen, it maybe will have not enough complexity to hold players for years like eve does, I'm sure it will come out more shooter oriented, but we'll see when it's finished

The difficulty of the game comes from the godawful UI imo, not the game mechanics itself. All the info and buttons make for a terrible first-time experience. I signed one of my buddies up via a buddy invite, he got in and did the Aura tutorial, and signed off and never got back on again. I asked him why and he said: "because it looks too complicated". I couldn't really disagree with him.

To be fair, it's all meaningless. EVE is pixels, just like Star Citizen. When the server will eventually get shut down, it'll all disappear. Years (or decades) of work and struggle, poof, gone.

Plus Star Citizen promises some persistence to its universe, and while combat will be small-scale compared to EVE, it promises to provide quality over quantity. EVE on the other hand, and this is especially obvious in missions where instead of challenging AI you are simply buried under a pile of mentally-challenged suicidal enemy ships in each wave, has always been about quantity over quality. This game has what, 2500 systems? All mostly the same, with just a handful of backdrops. Maybe it would have been better if it had only 500 systems, but each unique, with unique story, soundtrack, NPCs, resources, etc? But CCP went with quantity over quality.

So meaningless, better, worse? It'll be different. And you can't deny that they did, in a very short time, quite impressive piece of work. They're definitely moving at a pace significantly faster than CCP's. Granted they're using a fleshed out engine instead of making their own, etc., but this means nothing to the consumer. And in terms of features - even character features they promised such as character showing age, wear and tear via scarring, missing limbs, etc., and eventual character death? That's pretty impressive and very immersive.

Though of course all this is predicated on their ability to deliver on what they're talking about. The game could turn out another cheap piece of junk like Black Prophecy. Then again, when it comes to vaporware, CCP is pretty guilty of that as well. Just look at last year's FanFest stuff. New drone UI they showed a mock-up of? Ships showing damage and breaking apart? Etc. A lot of stuff they showed never materialized. BUT the stuff they did show this FanFest was not at all related. For example, the new jumpgate effect? That's a totally new off-the-wall feature not even mentioned last year. While stuff shown and mentioned never got done.