EVE General Discussion

Not sure if this is the right place to put this but meh.

As a 0.0 player I am used to having raiding parties etc come through our space to disrupt us and loose us iskies...back in the day it was a fair fight and a defense fleet could be formed. now days with cloaky t3's and black ops gangs that just appear after a neut or red has been in local for 6 hours (probable afk). this causes fear to prevent anyone from mining, ratting or doing anything to make money.

There is no counter to this other than to wait, bait and take a massive risk as there is never any intel on what gang floats on the other side of that cyno.

My suggestion is simple. People in alliance chat keep saying that a cloak is unbalanced, and that you should be able to detect it. I disagree as detecting cloaks defeats the purpose. What I suggest is that the cloak require a small amount of fuel, just enough to make it harder to float afk cloaked in a system.

Just a basic idea...thoughts?

Cloaks are balanced by local. Want to change cloaks? Then change local.

Thread # 1455532345 on "Cloak is OP nerf cloak!"

If you can't deal with the psychological pressure of having a cloaked ship in your system, you don't deserve to use dat nullsec system.

A cloaked ship cannot directly harm you. Get some buddies together and prep a counterdrop.

Not saying we can't deal with it, just saying that as a possible balance a fuel addition to a cloak might be good idea. We can counter it by forming a gang and baiting, usually waiting a long time if he is afk.

I just believe it gives the cloaky an unbalanced advantage.

How about we just make cloaking for longer than say 5 minutes remove the cloaker from local?

No one will ever complain about afk cloakers again.

Defend your space better against the inevitable hotdrops, then?

Black ops gangs use a lot of expensive T2 ships. Keep scanning, and if local spikes, scan some more and try to catch them between arrival and cloaking up. Any loss inflicted on them can be painful.

They have to get the cyno ship in somehow. Step up your gatecamps.

Pro-active raids. Hit your neighbours before they hit you. Mount your own black ops raids; lurk cloaked in their system for hours until they're all asleep, then cyno more pilots in and log them off in safespots. When they start to log in to run anomalies, rat, and (after the update) mine, log everyone in, cyno in some more, and blow them up. Stealth bomber dat mining op. Pop a regular cyno and bridge in a HIC to tackle that ratting carrier. Reinforce a PoS or two overnight, or just fly around shooting at everything so they get spammed with alerts.

/me sits in thread cloaked.

OP's alliance should suck less at holding space.

Cloaked ships have absolutely 0 combat edge on you except for when they decloak next to you and jam you...still they have to decloak and thus they arent cloaked when they do it lol PLUS cloaky ships are so much easier to take down then non cloaked ships. Manticores are tin foil. Widows have their issues compared to T1 BSes. The point is they are balanced. What you suggest is making the ship be penalized for doing something it was designed to do.

I should note that webbing freighters for insta warp was never intended as original game design either but it works...and ccp didnt think anyone would set up POSes in wormholes but they have. This style of game play is what eve thrives on, to say something is broke because you dont know how to confront it is just plain stupid. Absolutely no, leave cloaking the way it is.

Don't panic, I'll call the waaaaahmbulance!

Cloakies need to be fixed as much as suicide ganking needs to be fixed. In other words: not.