Market Discussions

There will be new scanning mechanics. I think it is safe to assume that bots will take plenty of time to adjust.

as it is its best to sell prior patch because when it hits we're gonna see massive dump.When people realise scaning ice in hisec is baby job it will be too late.

True but they still have to be in incredible large quantities to supply all pos around.Maybe not 100k+ but my guess is 50k+ minimum but lets wait to see on the test server.

So much for the speculation.Read the blog.Not only belts will not be hard to find ccp stated the average size will be 20% less than what we have now so my guess is accurate.Normal ice roid will be around 40-70k in size.

In the long term yes but that depends if people decide to dump or not when expansion hits.

This is a little deceptive. Static (permanent) ice fields in highsec, are being replaced with gravimetric ice belts in highsec, that will deplete and respawn.

As for botting, it will all come down to whether or not the ice belts stay in the current ice systems, or move system to system. If they remain in the current system, the bots will only need a slight adjustment to their script, and will experience little to no change in efficiency.

Mostly speculation and Goon market manipulation, I would think, 'cause most actual POS owners are already stocked up.

It was the last Goon speculation in ice - the ice interdiction - which prompted most of the hardcore industrialists to build up their stockpiles, after the interdiction ended. Many industrialists are sitting on years worth of fuel for their POS towers, acquired long before Odyssey was announced. I know one paranoid fellow who had stockpiled 10 years worth of fuel for each of his towers.

The 80% of ice remaining in high-sec should be more than enough to keep all of those stockpiles topped off for a long time.

In some respect those people are correct. It will depend on how long of a supply they purchased and how effectively they manage an active tower. There is no doubt that POS fuel will become much more expensive, this will have a trickle down effect on the tech 2 market and BPC market. Faction towers will also has a shorter payback period.

Moon mining, reactions, and BPO research are not free, so expect higher fuel price to bake itself into these markets in some way. There is the potential to add significant value to that fuel if those people have stockpiled or purchased fuel for cheap.

If they bought the fuel cheap then they have made a profit on the FUEL. The opportunity cost of not realising that profit by selling it back to the market should be accounted for in costing the ongoing operations of the POS. If it is not a profitable POS at the new fuel prices then it should cease.

However this is EVE and a game, so people will do whatever they want, and thats fine by me, In RL I would not take such a relaxed approach because there can be real consequences to not understanding your costs.

just to be clear - that 80% doesn't have to reach the market, a POS tower's fuel bay is good enough