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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#81 - 2013-04-16 16:02:17 UTC
Cearain wrote:
FW plexes are a great pvp venue and have replaced the top belt. It seems to me, the number of actual fights I get with neutrals is climbing every month.


Totally this!

The word is out, Low sec is now worth hunting in, FW farmers and pvpers actually live there!

Some one should tell null sec they are doing it wrong.

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Sian Ka'an
Pod Liberation Authority
#82 - 2013-04-16 19:53:44 UTC
there is no shortage of solo pvp once you change your definition of the word to 1 vs local.
know your ship, know your enemy, work the grid.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#83 - 2013-04-16 21:38:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Taoist Dragon
Cearain wrote:
adriaans wrote:
Zappity wrote:
What are you flying? Which systems? I usually inhabit the Kamela region and rarely go ten minutes without finding a fight (literally). Are you in a faction or are you more 'liberal' in your attentions?

Check dotlan FW map for Amarr/Minmatar for the most active recent systems. Admittedly you can have the odd dull day. It has happened a few times for me so I log my market alts in and keep the iskies ticking over.



In my experience FW just runs away all the time....oh noes an outlaw RUN FOR THE HILLS! Roll



Obviously the fw players will be much more likely to run than neutrals in plexes. There is no reason for a neutral to be in a plex other than to pvp. Whereas the fw pilots are often there to carebear vp for thier miltiia.


Thats why I wonder what percent of kills in plexes are from faction war players as opposed to neutrals. FW plexes are a great pvp venue and have replaced the top belt. It seems to me, the number of actual fights I get with neutrals is climbing every month.


Also remember thet FW provides a loarge number of 'legitimate' targets so people can comfortably pvp without sec status hits. This is also a reason why some people won't attack a nuetral.

There are however lots of 'outlaws' in FW who use the plex's as a pvp generator as well. I'm often sitting in a plex waiting for the locals to show up and shoot me only to find that the plex runs down and I get LP for waiting for a pie to come at me Twisted

I can't be arsed to LP farm but I'll take the LP while I'm waiting to get blown up. Helps fund my otherwise expensive pvp habit. True if I was neutral I could attack anyone coming into a plex but tbh I find being in FW doesn't really limit my number of targets a great deal as more and more non FW people are using the plex's \o/

I do find it a bit sad that the True solo'ist is a dieing breed though. But I'll still solo truthfully!!!!! CHARGE!!!!!

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Arguil McKay
F0RCED ENTRY
Solyaris Chtonium
#84 - 2013-04-17 00:31:54 UTC
get a bubble
get a wolf
go to null
deploy the bubble between to active jump gates (perferably in bottleneck system)
make safe 200km above the bubble and wait for prey to be caught

or

set a route through null, and find your prey to fight
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#85 - 2013-04-17 00:34:38 UTC
Arguil McKay wrote:
get a bubble
get a wolf
go to null
deploy the bubble between to active jump gates (perferably in bottleneck system)
make safe 200km above the bubble and wait for prey to be caught

or

set a route through null, and find your prey to fight


This might be fine for more active TZ's

But in the AU TZ null is quieter than a nuns frat party.

Not saying it can't be done but the amount of time spent roaming and 'fishing' is vastly less in low sec.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2013-04-18 10:58:01 UTC
There is no such things as SOLO pvp. You alwyas need 2 persons.. one being the victim.


This must be some concept that only geeks coudl create.. thinking that everything can be done solo even when nature designed it to be done in couples.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Preestar
Furnace
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#87 - 2013-04-24 20:14:28 UTC
Sian Ka'an wrote:
there is no shortage of solo pvp once you change your definition of the word to 1 vs local.
know your ship, know your enemy, work the grid.


THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.
LooknSee
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#88 - 2013-04-25 00:27:29 UTC
I remember an era when men were godly men of god and fought other godly men of god in proper contests of skill and honour upon glorious fields of battle. I remember it so clearly it could have been yesterday.

Yet the amazing thing about this memory... is that it never happened.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#89 - 2013-04-25 13:40:51 UTC
LooknSee wrote:
I remember an era when men were godly men of god and fought other godly men of god in proper contests of skill and honour upon glorious fields of battle. I remember it so clearly it could have been yesterday.

Yet the amazing thing about this memory... is that it never happened.



Its actually happening now in greater numbers than ever. There are lots of good fights to be had in faction war plexes. Especially if you are not in faction war and can fight both militias.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2013-04-25 15:31:35 UTC
I 'True Solo' PvP.

- My efficiency is **** (compounded by the fact I tend to inefficiently bling not very good ships now and again for fun, including a stint of Deadspace combat Interceptors...)
- I get ECMed
- I get pounced on by Recons
- Over-shipped people run from me often. Dramiels and Daredevils will inexplicably warp off from your Rifter. People fit WCS and cloaks. Many people aren't interested in fights that aren't going to be complete clear-cut stomps
- The blob
- OGBs
- Other 'True Solo' pilots tend to be flying FOTM
- I need to stay small to evade camps, limiting my engagement profile
- People will be warp core stabbed
- People will be warp core stabbed
- On some nights I will literally be roaming for hours and not get a fight
- On those nights I'll run into somebody warp core stabbed
- The last few points mean I get burned out and take breaks often. I've overall only had a couple of hundred fights
- By extension of this, I look at my lifetime kills and think about all of the hard hours I put in scanning and chasing, then I look at people who participate in weekend fleets and get my lifetime kills in a month with not much effort
- Sometimes I get sad when I see that literally everybody with a worthwhile fleet ranges in 95%~99% efficiency. Then I take a step back and wonder why I'm giving a ****
- You'll sometimes finally get fights and it'll be a t1 crapfit, which can be just as disheartening as not finding a fight at all

So this probably looks like a whine post. It isn't. It's just observations from my time playing. These are issues for some people (not me), and those people will find greener pastures.

But I'll say this;

I'm honestly really happy with my experience.

Solo PvP isn't dead, it's just not everybody's cup of tea.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#91 - 2013-04-25 16:06:23 UTC
Halete

I recommend you and any solo pilot learn about fw plexes.

Here is a good guide that gives the basics:

http://www.gamerchick.net/2013/01/the-beginners-guide-to-faction-war.html

You won't be able to run down the timers unless you are in fw but you can scan and open the sites.

Get large number of your favorite ships in kourmonen, or nenn on the caldari/gallente front, (I have a jump clone in each) and use your dscan and you will find allot of fights. Use the plex mechanics to avoid losses to the blobs.

Look at the dotlan map to see where the ships and pods are exploding. But I will tell you kamela huola lamma sosala auga dal sisiede vard and anka are all good systems for plexing. They are all 1-2 jumps from kourm. Expect that kourm kam gate is camped. Auga is a regional gate so its not so much of a concern.

Tell me how it works for you.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Shintoko Akahoshi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2013-04-25 19:47:03 UTC
Halete wrote:

- By extension of this, I look at my lifetime kills and think about all of the hard hours I put in scanning and chasing, then I look at people who participate in weekend fleets and get my lifetime kills in a month with not much effort
- Sometimes I get sad when I see that literally everybody with a worthwhile fleet ranges in 95%~99% efficiency. Then I take a step back and wonder why I'm giving a ****


That's always been the case. I started pvping solo in 2003, and it was like this back then. The main difference was the lack of KBs and consequently the lack of focus on overall "ranking".

Halete wrote:

I'm honestly really happy with my experience.

Solo PvP isn't dead, it's just not everybody's cup of tea.


And that's what playing this game is all about, really. Big smile

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Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2013-04-26 07:32:36 UTC
Cearain wrote:

I recommend you and any solo pilot learn about fw plexes.


FW Plexes work well. Most of my activity has been in FW space since Molden Heath dropped off (removal of the lower quality dungeons (Thanks CCP), evacuation of some of the older locals, etc).

From personal experience it makes getting fights a lot easier.

If nothing else, at the very least it's worth solo pilots getting a feel for using plexes as 'space terrain' during blobs.


"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#94 - 2013-04-26 08:31:46 UTC
Eve totally needs more places with ship restrictions that dont allow on grid warping



Also the on grid warp distance should be changed.. its retardedly short making it really hard to spread out a blob =<

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Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#95 - 2013-04-26 15:29:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximus Hashur
I can agree with what a lot of what people are saying. FW is definatly the place to hunt if you are into solo PvP. And basically, lose any concern about winning or losing - just be entertained by the fight. You will have a lot of good fights that you win, and you will also get your A$s handed to you multiple times, very often in unfair ECM/Blob situations. Get over it. My kill/loss ratio is like 2-3 times more losses than kills, but i have a great time.

I will admit that i hate off grid boosters and have raged on here before about it in other threads. Even with that, i still have fun. You learn when to engage and when to have that 6th sense telling you not to do it.

The only problem i ever have is getting more isk. I accomplish this by either exploration, or if im going to be really honest, i buy at least 1 PLEX a month just because i dont feel like spending what time i do have to commit to the game on PvE. Im addicted to the solo fight. Thats just me though. There are more than enough opportunities in this game to make isk if your smart and dedicated.

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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#96 - 2013-04-26 15:43:27 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Eve totally needs more places with ship restrictions that dont allow on grid warping



Also the on grid warp distance should be changed.. its retardedly short making it really hard to spread out a blob =<


i always thought it should have been 250+ just to be in line with max lock - im sure theres an RP reason in there too some where :P

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Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2013-04-26 15:44:36 UTC
Muad 'dib wrote:
Cearain wrote:
FW plexes are a great pvp venue and have replaced the top belt. It seems to me, the number of actual fights I get with neutrals is climbing every month.


Totally this!

The word is out, Low sec is now worth hunting in, FW farmers and pvpers actually live there!

Some one should tell null sec they are doing it wrong.



I agree. Null Sec is boring as f*ck compared to FW low sec. And no i don't consider large capital ship engagements and blobs fun.

And to those old school null sec guys claiming that FW pilots are low skill and cant compete with nullsec, i suggest you come over and try your hand. I think you'll find FW is filled with a lot more talent than you think.

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Commissar Veldt
Progressive State
#98 - 2013-04-26 19:55:25 UTC
been having and continue to have solo fights successfully without scouts and OGB and manage to find solo engagements easy enough.
Faction warfare is probably best way to get them, requires a bit of roaming but not much once you know which systems are good for solo.
Also BC's will usually attract a gang, try frigates, destroyers and even cruisers.
Most solo fights i get are against pilots who dont use OGB either.
My killboard has been slow this last month due to inactivity but the last year ive been spending most of my time honing solo skills.
Ship down and join FW! great fun!
Verlyn
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#99 - 2013-04-27 14:12:41 UTC
Two words:

Faction Warfare.
HazeInADaze
Safari Hunt Club
#100 - 2013-04-27 14:23:41 UTC
I solo a lot without scouts or links and I'm usually in a cruiser. BC is too slow IMO. Frigs and dessies are good as well but I find the cruiser gives me a wide envelope of targets and enough escape ability to survive a lot of situations.

You will get blobbed. You will fight 'elite soloists' that use links, HG implants, chems, etc. You just get used to it and begin to recognise them by name or swagger.