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When do you start thinking you are seeing a bot?
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Hicksimus
Torgue
#1 - 2011-09-07 15:30:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Hicksimus
I've been traveling through http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Urhinichi and seeing 5 or 6 Raven Navy Issues on D-scan 4 of them aren't even named and all are in their own 1 person corporation. There is 1 Noctis constantly on scan and tons of wrecks and they are nearly constantly active as you can see on dotlan.

This is when I suspect botting, in this case to make rigs.

How do you guys decide if you are seeing bots and would you report this?

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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-09-07 15:36:20 UTC
A real bot would ignore you.

For every action there is a reaction, at least from a human.
A BOT however will only react as it is programmed so it will give the same response every time.

The rest is up to you.

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Efraya
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#3 - 2011-09-07 15:48:46 UTC
Scan them down, flip their can see what happens.
Cross your fingers and hope that the bot can't tell the difference between a red player and a red npc.

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-09-07 15:53:32 UTC
Efraya wrote:
Scan them down, flip their can see what happens.
Cross your fingers and hope that the bot can't tell the difference between a red player and a red npc.



Better to start afk cloaking and smacking up local. If they respond, they're human, if they ignore you and stay safed up (they immediately warp to ss's / POS's when reds enter system) they're probably bots. Drop CCP a note and they'll check them out to confirm if they're botting.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Aphoxema G
Khushakor Clan
#5 - 2011-09-07 16:34:58 UTC
Innocent until proven guilty, but that does sound like a reasonable situation to be suspicious. Programmers can get pretty clever, and regular people might just plain ignore you if you do anything with them.

Bot or not, predictability is a good thing for pirates. See if you can find them or have someone else find them and scan their ship fittings. You might be able to sell the find to a pirate corp if they have decent faction or officer fits. It's legitimate gameplay and all the more justified to eliminate the presence of harmful bots.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#6 - 2011-09-07 16:39:53 UTC
could be a multiboxer could be a bot

as recommended in the other replies try and provoke a human response from them before reporting them.
otherwise we'll see some poor bastard in here in a couple days talking about how all his accounts got banned when he went to go take a leak...
Zagam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-09-07 16:45:01 UTC
First - as others have said, try to elicit a human response. (give them some time to reply)
Second - wardec 'em
Third - if no response, salvage their wrecks. if they don't respond, repeat. if they still don't respond.. profit!
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#8 - 2011-09-07 16:50:47 UTC
tell them that their mother is a drone and looks like a dominix. If they respond you know they are bots.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#9 - 2011-09-07 16:59:55 UTC
When the same three people like every single post of mine, I start suspecting Bot.

CCP needs to get to the bottom of this travesty.

Nyan
Sadayiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-09-07 17:00:39 UTC
considering the fact it's a newbie system, there may be some profitable hack with some storyline missions that we must be unaware off.


Interesting i must check this out.
Tautut
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-09-07 17:07:15 UTC
Hicksimus wrote:
I've been traveling through http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Urhinichi and seeing 5 or 6 Raven Navy Issues on D-scan 4 of them aren't even named and all are in their own 1 person corporation. There is 1 Noctis constantly on scan and tons of wrecks and they are nearly constantly active as you can see on dotlan.

This is when I suspect botting, in this case to make rigs.

How do you guys decide if you are seeing bots and would you report this?


I've seen exactly the same thing in Unpas and surrounding areas. Caldari Navy Ravens ... different 1 man corps but when scanned they had the exact same fit.

All bot reported well over a month ago.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#12 - 2011-09-07 17:16:34 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
A real bot would ignore you.

For every action there is a reaction, at least from a human.
A BOT however will only react as it is programmed so it will give the same response every time.

The rest is up to you.


I'm not even that good at programming and I could make it "talk" more than most real people.

OP, I feel your pain. I would not be quick to report a bot with the new system.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Haruki Tekitsu
Eden's Knights of Malta
#13 - 2011-09-07 17:55:00 UTC
Someone better call Matthew Hopkins, These bot witch hunts are getting silly.
Some people like working alone, some people reject chats, some people couldnt give two monkies if you keep bumping thier ships. I know I don't.
BTW I taught my bot how to post in the forums. Twisted
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#14 - 2011-09-07 18:07:53 UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Skex Relbore
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-09-07 18:18:16 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Simetraz wrote:
A real bot would ignore you.

For every action there is a reaction, at least from a human.
A BOT however will only react as it is programmed so it will give the same response every time.

The rest is up to you.


I'm not even that good at programming and I could make it "talk" more than most real people.

OP, I feel your pain. I would not be quick to report a bot with the new system.



If it doesn't talk it's a bot,
if it talks it's a well programmed bot. Twisted

Seriously though just because someone doesn't respond does mean they are a bot, I often will have my miners up for hours while I'm doing other things (watching TV, PVPing fapping off) and I seldom bother even looking at the accounts other than to move Ice when my timer tells me it's time. Hell I seldom pay attention to local on Skex it's not like there's anything in there other than sophomoric epeen stroking or spam most the time anyway.
Tiennen07
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2011-09-07 19:02:12 UTC
Aphoxema G wrote:
Innocent until proven guilty, but that does sound like a reasonable situation to be suspicious. Programmers can get pretty clever, and regular people might just plain ignore you if you do anything with them.

Bot or not, predictability is a good thing for pirates. See if you can find them or have someone else find them and scan their ship fittings. You might be able to sell the find to a pirate corp if they have decent faction or officer fits. It's legitimate gameplay and all the more justified to eliminate the presence of harmful bots.



yeah, cuz pirates are gonna try to kill a bunch of bots in a high sec system.

really the only thing they could do is flip a can or loot their wrecks.