EVE General Discussion

You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. No one quit. And nothing I said is "crying." It's amazing how often people are quick to jump on that bandwagon. Everything is either crying or "Eve isn't for everyone." I'm sorry you feel that way. Eve is complex and vast, full of great depth and potential. I like it here, and I'm not going anywhere.

Haha ok just a quick sampling, wonder where people might get the idea you're crying?

What's wrong with Eve not being for everyone? Not everyone likes Football (American or Real Football), does that mean we need to change either of those games?

I see. So a structured response stating some historical facts is crying. Thank you for clarifying. Further, my comments were made in the context of the original poster's comments and assumptions about how people like myself would react to his campaign. I just happened to have the benefit of being able to share a past experience that mirrors his objectives.

You may also want to note that nowhere within my post did I ever mention anything about changing this game. Quite the contrary, actually, as I was pretty clear that we dealt with the situation to the best of our ability at the time without ever complaining or asking CCP to do anything for us. It's not an idea I would have or will ever entertain.

At this point, there is nothing constructive for me to add. If you feel the need to have the last word, then by all means, feel free.

You do know they most likely meant they would either disband the corp and remake it or stay in a npc corp for a while or just maybe stay docked up and do their trading games / play their main or alt while you sit on your backside outside a station waiting for them to undock...

I don't think the OP understands the typical carebear at all.

The major flaws in your theory are :

1) assuming carebears are only carebears because they haven't been introduced to the majesty of PvP. The vast majority of people playing have played another MMO before and/or besides this one, and have, at some point, at least dabbled in PvP, and decided for whatever reason, it wasn't for them. Maybe they find it stressful, maybe they suck at it, and/or maybe they don't like the e-peen waving and smack talk normally associated with the more vocal PvPers. If carebears disliked and avoided PvP in a consequence free PvE themepark, they aren't going to like it any more in a game where they lose their shinies.

2) not understanding a carebear, by definition, is someone who wants nothing to do with PvP. They are more interested in empire building or running a virtual business than blowing things up. Blowing up people not interested in fighting back is only going to confirm their belief that most PvPers are basement dwelling neckbeard mouth breathers.

I'm not suggesting in any way that PvP should be optional even in high sec. You should be free to wardec or suicide gank whoever, wherever you want, but it's near delusional thinking that blapping carebears is going to magically convince them they were wrong about this whole PvP thing. You're more likely to get them petitioning CCP to make the game safer.



Weren't most of these changes the direct result of griefing carebears, and your solution is to grief them more? What could possibly go wrong?

I have no problems with Merc or Pirate corps...I eventually plan on joining one.

Whether it's griefing or not is entirely dependent on your motivation. Do you actually expect to profit deccing some small corp with no assets, or are you doing it for lulz and tears? Judging by your blog, I'd guess the latter.

Kicking the neighbor's annoying little rat dog for barking at you isn't going to make it stop barking at you.

I really don't know how many times I can say this, but my intent is not to get carebears to pvp. Reread my previous posts in this thread until comprehension occurs.

Don't see what that would achieve op other than,

1) In an NPC corp so won't care anyway.

2) In a player corp but has another character in an NPC corp, so just uses the NPC character whilst the war-dec is active.

3) In a player corp (only 1 account) so just play another MMO whilst the war-dec is active.





Also if you keep hitting the same player corps then you get people leaving them to go back to NPC corps.


Point is you can't generate more targets through war-decs if those targets don't want to be war-dec'd.

Lets say you have a high end steak restaurant that beef aficionados love. LOVE I tell you.
Continual swaths of McDonald's patrons walk into the steak restaurant and complain the prices are too high, either verbally or by just walking out in frustration.
The steakhouse owner attempts to retain the McDonalds customers by cutting costs, quality of the meat, etc so he increases volume of people staying to eat.
The steak aficionado is disgusted that the high end steak restaurant is now a Burger King
The McDonalds patron has just gotten himself yet another burger joint in a long strip mall of burger joints
The steak afficionado stabs a fork in the McDonalds patron's eye, while telling the owner he is making a big mistake, he then stops coming and falls in love with high end Sushi instead.