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Rex Aparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-04-23 15:19:48 UTC
Britta Nolen wrote:
double rattlesnakes with faction & deadspace mods.



Well, if you want to get technical, I'm pretty sure that fit would require 3 Snakes to run almost everything. My fit requires 2. As posted, his fit is 50m more expensive than mine. You do the math.
Britta Nolen
Sama Guild
#22 - 2013-04-23 15:22:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Britta Nolen
Rex Aparte wrote:
Britta Nolen wrote:
even with a probe out, they would have to constantly scan every 10 seconds with a ridicolously expensive fit like that. how many c4 sites do you have to run to pay for that?


What's ridiculously expensive? The medium reps were 25m apiece, so 3/4 of one nom.

Also, are you insinuating you wouldn't be scanning if you had a less expensive fit? This I don't understand.


Honestly, with the cheap fits and ships I use with insurance, I don't lose more than 250m to a gank.

So 1.5b plus flying arse out in the wind or 400m with just as much efficiency for sites.
Rex Aparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-04-23 15:24:52 UTC
Britta Nolen wrote:
Rex Aparte wrote:
Britta Nolen wrote:
even with a probe out, they would have to constantly scan every 10 seconds with a ridicolously expensive fit like that. how many c4 sites do you have to run to pay for that?


What's ridiculously expensive? The medium reps were 25m apiece, so 3/4 of one nom.

Also, are you insinuating you wouldn't be scanning if you had a less expensive fit? This I don't understand.


Honestly, with the cheap fits and ships I use with insurance, I don't lose more than 250m to a gank.



Wow, how do you run C4 noms in 2 x 250m ship? This I need to know.
Britta Nolen
Sama Guild
#24 - 2013-04-23 15:26:52 UTC
I use 3.
Rex Aparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-04-23 15:27:23 UTC
Britta Nolen wrote:
I use 3.


3 what.
Saheed Cha'chris'ra
Krautz WH Exploration and Production
#26 - 2013-04-23 15:30:16 UTC
If i would like to fly C4-Sites with Amarr-Ships, what could be a nice setup?
Guardians + Abaddons? Something with RR? Legions with i dont know?

Thanks for your ideas Big smile I am new to wormholes.
Britta Nolen
Sama Guild
#27 - 2013-04-23 15:30:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Britta Nolen
2 domis & logi works every site except the 4 safeguard mag/radar.

Edit: 2 armor domis work also but are way too slow. i think maybe like 2 frontier barracks an hour. The way i run, I can punch through 5 an hour. 6-7 with magnetar bonus.
Rex Aparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-04-23 15:34:14 UTC
Britta Nolen wrote:
2 domis & logi works every site except the 4 safeguard mag/radar.



Can post Domi fit?
Britta Nolen
Sama Guild
#29 - 2013-04-23 15:36:08 UTC
Rex Aparte wrote:
Britta Nolen wrote:
2 domis & logi works every site except the 4 safeguard mag/radar.



Can post Domi fit?


Sorry but your gonna have to figure it out. Took me a while to get down efficiently. All T2, no pimp at all. Even the rigs are dirt cheap.
Rex Aparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-04-23 15:38:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Rex Aparte
Britta Nolen wrote:
Rex Aparte wrote:
Britta Nolen wrote:
2 domis & logi works every site except the 4 safeguard mag/radar.



Can post Domi fit?


Sorry but your gonna have to figure it out. Took me a while to get down efficiently. All T2, no pimp at all. Even the rigs are dirt cheap.



Lol, yaaaa that's what I thought. o7m8

Edit: if it wasn't clear, I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about.
Rex Aparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-04-23 15:42:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Rex Aparte
Saheed Cha'chris'ra wrote:
If i would like to fly C4-Sites with Amarr-Ships, what could be a nice setup?
Guardians + Abaddons? Something with RR? Legions with i dont know?

Thanks for your ideas Big smile I am new to wormholes.



I'm no expert:

You're gonna need RR

You're gonna need 2-3 ships

Most spawns are over 90km away to start.

That should get the ball rolling for you.

Edit: Forgot, dps ranges from 600 on the low end, around 1000 most of the time, up to 1500 max for most sites, and two sites are around/above 2000.
Tinna Benuse
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-04-23 16:43:27 UTC
If you will share the C4 with 3 or more people build a carrier like Archon (Triage is not needed) and any other BS that you can put a lot of DPS.

If you plan to go to another WHs C4 or higher, domis can do miracles.
I already tried 2 domis navy (shield and armor) with a command ship and is possible to beat that 4 Safeguards with about 700dps each.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#33 - 2013-04-23 18:15:04 UTC
Tinna Benuse wrote:
If you will share the C4 with 3 or more people build a carrier like Archon (Triage is not needed) and any other BS that you can put a lot of DPS.


Wouldn't build a carrier in a C4 for PVE purposes (even for POS defence its questionable but does give you the upper hand when hostiles can't get caps in easily). If you've got 3 or more people with reasonable skills especially if they have more than 1 account each and are talking capitals then a C5 is going to be way better ISK.

Also I'd always triage fit a carrier unless your running lots of them spider repping - non-triage carrier and a small BS compliment getting jumped in site by a small to medium sized T3 gang = almost definitely dead, triage carrier + small BS compliment can put up one **** of a fight.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-04-23 21:17:24 UTC
Here, to make it easier, the hardest anom will require a max tank of about 1400dps. That is the Frontier Barracks, and its only on the second wave with 4 upholders. Depending on how fast you can drop one will determine how long you need that much tank.

Outside of that, the only sites that need more tank are the tougher two mag/radar, which will max around 2000dps on the final wave.

As far as Britta's fit, just keep an eye on her Corp, I'd bet it will show up eventually.
Rex Aparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-04-23 22:03:34 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Here, to make it easier, the hardest anom will require a max tank of about 1400dps. That is the Frontier Barracks, and its only on the second wave with 4 upholders. Depending on how fast you can drop one will determine how long you need that much tank.

Outside of that, the only sites that need more tank are the tougher two mag/radar, which will max around 2000dps on the final wave.

As far as Britta's fit, just keep an eye on her Corp, I'd bet it will show up eventually.




Considering it appears they've only been in a C4 for about two weeks and have already lost a bunch of ships/pods, I'm probably not going to have to wait very long to see this phantom fit.
Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#36 - 2013-04-24 00:15:17 UTC
Well this thread is now a pissing contest. I can't verify first hand but I have read from other sources that 2 domi + logo can do c4s just fine. I might do some EFT warrioring later.

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Joshua Lorne
The Night Crew
#37 - 2013-04-24 01:42:32 UTC
I run C4's myself with just 1 Tengu. Many I know do the same. It's not hard.
Tengus, Vargurs and Rattlesnakes can all solo C4 sites without breaking a sweat if you fit them proper. Just don't try it in a Mag or Radar.

And no, I do not share my fit to strangers P
Rex Aparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-04-24 02:41:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Rex Aparte
Nevermind. /thread for me
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2013-04-24 02:59:22 UTC
Garresh wrote:
Well this thread is now a pissing contest. I can't verify first hand but I have read from other sources that 2 domi + logo can do c4s just fine. I might do some EFT warrioring later.


Yes that can work. The only issue IMO in this thread was the claim that 2 domi's and a logi can crank out 6 C4 sites an hour. Unless you are doing all Integrated Terminus maybe, but they are crap.

Rex Aparte wrote:
Joshua Lorne wrote:

I run C4's myself with just 1 Tengu. Many I know do the same. It's not hard.
Tengus, Vargurs and Rattlesnakes can all solo C4 sites without breaking a sweat if you fit them proper. Just don't try it in a Mag or Radar.

And no, I do not share my fit to strangers




Have fun with your eventual 4b isk lossmail.


It doesn't take 4bil to make a C4 soloable Tengu. That being said its still gonna be a slow grind, what would probably be better served soloing C3's
Britta Nolen
Sama Guild
#40 - 2013-04-24 04:33:51 UTC
I said 5 in regular and 6-7 in magnetar. ALL FRONTIER BARRACKS. Its not my fault you can't figure out how to kill that site in less than 12 minutes.