EVE General Discussion

I agree this should be the case. Your not going to want to dock, de-pod and enter the station on foot every time you dock, it is silly. You should have the option to de-pod into your CQ from the docking hanger. But I'm pretty sure CCP have said they would never go back to the old hanger... even though they would be willing to bring ship spinning back.

It has been confirmed that they cannot reimplement the old ship hangar system, because it would play havoc with Incarna. Sorry.

Just keep the pressure on, I'm sure they'll find a way to implement a new version of the ship hangar.

bumpy!

This is pretty much it.

I just hope this doesn't take years.

We'll tell them I used Dev Haxxes to edit your post so it wouldn't be registered on the forums.
Then we can have me fired!

the issue with that is the functionality and low idie useage wont be restored, it will be the fancy pc sucking QC effects.

a lower use version of that ship view is fine, with a button that then loads the QC is whats needed. it dosnt need to be so fancy when your jsut docking to get another ship. whats the point of removing the ship change session timer if you have to spend the same amount of time just docking and undocking

I like Esan's approach - lets just have a fixed view when docking out over the balcony with the old functionality back and just be able to break that by hitting "Leave Pod" - or if that is seem as too much of a climb down for CCP - by simply seeking to move avatar from that standing position which then renders the avatar (even if this requires another transition while the true Incara enviroment loads). For me spinnig is not about spinnig but all about the lost functionality and increased cpu load on docking.

But if you can't see the avatar unless you choose to move then I can't see what the problem is for those who dont want to get out of their pod every time they dock - just don't move!

wtf are these complains about?

ship spinning?
really?
are you serious?

I care less about that than my hybrids/wallente ships being looked at.

Pick the warm in your pants and spin it !!

Bunch of old winners

Crunch,

The answer for this is to make one certain function only available from inside the station. Hell, it could be clone upgrades. As long as you force a walk for something you accomplish the marketing goal. People are vain, they are still gonna buy stuff from Nex. People are buying it now just for their portraits...

I can agree with that to a point. Clone service is only needed very periodically unless you're like me and pod yourself regularly for travel purposes. lol So it may not be the best option. But a sevice like agents or something would be more realistic.

And yes. The people who are sitting on a stack of plexes and trillions of isk are buying monocles and such. for their avatars - stuff that can be seen. But most people outside that group aren't spending AUR right now.

But those aren't the real target market of the NEX shop. The real target is those "regular" players. Right now, you can't really target them because the AUR prices are far higher than most can afford. And there's no real way to publicly flaunt your new pants / boots / shirt and make other people want one too. For the time being, we're allowed to disable the Forever Alone Minmatar Closet since we can't interact with others. But once they actually create the environment where people can interact with other peoples' toons, that's when they'll force it on us. That's when the average Eve player will be exposed to everyone else's stuff. And then they'll want to fork out $35 to buy 2 Plex to convert to AUR to buy their own. They're looking to foster that sense of greed and make us want what others have (much like real life). They're counting on that being a marketing tool. And there's no way they'll allow us to bypass that, as it's money in the bank.

As I said, devs have no say in this, regardless of what they'd like to see. This is a marketing tool, and decisions about it are run by marketing and management.

Personally, I'd love my option of having the old hangar (which I'd be in 90% of the time when docked) and the option to load the station occasionally. But I'm guessing that would be the same for most of the older players who make up the core of the subscription base. And really, that's not "good for business" for CCP and the NEX store. So I doubt we'll ever see that.