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+1 Poetic Stanziel

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#1 - 2013-04-15 16:38:55 UTC
Kills Per Region, and More

First the Negative Whine: Needs to be in sortable, tabular format.
Positives: Freaking Awesome!

FW low sec accounts for 8 of the 13 regions that generated over 10k kills in March. I wonder which feature is generating the most "content" in Eve? (obviously Jita Big smile )

Poorly formatted numbers:

Region No. Kills Notes
The Forge 24481 High Sec, Jita
Black Rise 23867 FW
Delve 18931 Sov 0.0
Heimatar 18487 FW
Metropolis 18344 FW
The Bleak Lands 17372 FW
Essence 16850 FW
The Citadel 16137 FW
Devoid 15970 FW
Sing Liason 14589 (Rancer, Eggh)
Placid 13219 FW
Domain 11750 Massive Region
Curse 10584 NPC 0.0

Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#2 - 2013-04-15 17:18:27 UTC
Low Sec FTW. ShockedBig smile
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#3 - 2013-04-15 17:46:54 UTC
I think it would be more interesting to see how much of FW Kills account for the overall lowsec kills.

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#4 - 2013-04-15 17:57:59 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
You can get a good idea of how many kills (and losses) are FW player related by looking at eve-kill. Non-alliance Gallente FW has 4380 total kills this month, which would put it at No. 3 on eve-kill behind Goonswarm(6388) and Test Alliance(5782). Add in alliance kills (which overlap with GMVA, some of SPDR, but not so much with RISE, and definitely not with SPCA), and and we'd be really close to Number One. Maybe Amarr or Minmatar would have more kills if their kb included alliances..

Plus, you can look at those regions to see who are the top alliances and corporations getting all the kills. Black Rise: Top 4 corporations are militia, 3 of Top 5 alliances are FW. The pirates who make up the rest of the list (Scum, Rainbow Dash Friends, and Ministry of Destruction) feed off of militia quite a bit as well.
Xayder
modro
The Initiative.
#5 - 2013-04-15 19:51:35 UTC
-1

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2manno Asp
Death By Design
#6 - 2013-04-15 22:36:43 UTC
made the list. **** yea.
Dan Carter Murray
#7 - 2013-04-15 23:17:11 UTC
WHAT ABOUT THE STRUCTURES IN 0.0 SOV?

THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT IN MY OPINION.

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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#8 - 2013-04-15 23:20:09 UTC
The Forge is not only Jita but RvB-country as well; that easily accounts for a couple thousand kills.

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Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#9 - 2013-04-16 09:15:20 UTC
lol, single FW systems generate more kills than whole null sec regions.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-04-16 12:54:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Muad 'dib
that may be true about fw being the most actiave pvp grounds, but eve is about 0.0 and bowing to 0.0 power blocks and their super-swinging-dic-hullls

set FW to MAXIMUM CARNAGE!

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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#11 - 2013-04-16 15:07:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
X Gallentius wrote:
You can get a good idea of how many kills (and losses) are FW player related by looking at eve-kill. Non-alliance Gallente FW has 4380 total kills this month, which would put it at No. 3 on eve-kill behind Goonswarm(6388) and Test Alliance(5782). Add in alliance kills (which overlap with GMVA, some of SPDR, but not so much with RISE, and definitely not with SPCA), and and we'd be really close to Number One. Maybe Amarr or Minmatar would have more kills if their kb included alliances.. .


This only shows data for the very large alliances which I do not think make up the lions share of the pvp in low sec.
X Gallentius wrote:

Plus, you can look at those regions to see who are the top alliances and corporations getting all the kills. Black Rise: Top 4 corporations are militia, 3 of Top 5 alliances are FW. The pirates who make up the rest of the list (Scum, Rainbow Dash Friends, and Ministry of Destruction) feed off of militia quite a bit as well.



This works pretty well when the top alliances make up a large percent of the total kills like in Black rise, and bleaklands, where we see a heavy fw influence. It also works well when the non fw alliances are clearly doing most of the killing as we see in devoid.

It doesn't work so well in metro, or lonetreck where we see top alliance killers don't really account for the majority of kills.


I would like to see a more reliable breakdown of fw versus non fw kills. But really to the extent we are dreaming here I would like to know the breakdown of kills in fw plexes. I would not be surprised if the number neutral kills in plexes isn't geting close to 25%.

I would also like to see a breakdown of fw kills which might show if they are now much more concentrated into a fewer systems like was predicted from the station lockouts. It seems like the amarr/min fw presence outside of a 1or 2 jumps from kourmonen is pretty low.

However you look at it, this seems to show that if you want pvp, low sec is the way to go. Null sec is looking really bad.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-04-16 15:27:21 UTC
Sura Sadiva wrote:
lol, single FW systems generate more kills than whole null sec regions.

this is about RISK of 0.0 Shocked

Lol

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#13 - 2013-04-16 17:12:15 UTC
Cearain wrote:

However you look at it, this seems to show that if you want pvp, FACTION WARFARE low sec is the way to go. Null sec is looking really bad.
Fixed. Unless you meant to say that Solitude is a great place to pvp.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#14 - 2013-04-16 22:31:04 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Region No. Kills Notes
The Forge 24481 High Sec, Jita
Black Rise 23867 FW
Delve 18931 Sov 0.0
Heimatar 18487 FW
Metropolis 18344 FW
The Bleak Lands 17372 FW
Essence 16850 FW
The Citadel 16137 FW
Devoid 15970 FW
Sing Liason 14589 (Rancer, Eggh)
Placid 13219 FW
Domain 11750 Massive Region
Curse 10584 NPC 0.0

Sunovabetch!!! ONLY #6 on the list??? Gotta step up our game. Evil
Colt Blackhawk
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-04-17 05:55:23 UTC
I like the numbers of Kam/Kourm.
As a combination always some of the most violent systems in eve.

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SAJUK NIGARRA
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-04-17 11:01:27 UTC  |  Edited by: SAJUK NIGARRA
X Gallentius wrote:
Kills Per Region, and More

First the Negative Whine: Needs to be in sortable, tabular format.
Positives: Freaking Awesome!

FW low sec accounts for 8 of the 13 regions that generated over 10k kills in March. I wonder which feature is generating the most "content" in Eve? (obviously Jita Big smile )






As usual, we don't see eye to eye. Chasing number of kills or thinking only kills are content is a pretty shallow vision of eve and reminds me a lot of "acheivements" in other AAA games. That's actually the great thing about Eve, look at other community forums, half the people there aren't eve subbed, still they create what others consider great content.

Hell, for Provi dudes throwing another station means great content, for me and Tek disbanding the Sinners of Solitude coalition in 2 hours on TS without even undocking was great content. Look at the dude that stole 600 B worth of crap from SMA and all the drama that followed with attempted coups, etc . That's content that reaches the community more than a frig 1v1 which, while fun for the two dudes involved, creates nothing for everyone else.

But to get back on track, while Poetic is a rambling idiot, this type of easly accesible data is a great service to the community and especially for semi nomadic alliances like ours is a godsent when looking at possible roadtrip destinations, so yeah, deffo +1 Poetic Stanziel, thanks dude.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#17 - 2013-04-22 14:38:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
X Gallentius wrote:
Cearain wrote:

However you look at it, this seems to show that if you want pvp, FACTION WARFARE low sec is the way to go. Null sec is looking really bad.
Fixed. Unless you meant to say that Solitude is a great place to pvp.



Agreed. Whether that is due to fw pvpers or non fw pvpers going where the people are, is what I wonder about.

We see some FW areas like devoid were non-fw players are getting the most kills. Others like black rise and bleak lands where fw players are getting the most kills.

In other fw regions, like metro and lonetrek, it's unclear who is getting the most kills because the top alliances don't cover the majority of kills.

edit: I mean citadel not lonetreck.

I think 2 main changes helped create this enviornment:
1) ended gcc
2) The rats in fw plexes no longer cause problems for pvpers.
3) Added lp payouts so more people became exposed to faction war plex pvp.

Is there a way to easilly see on any killboard if someone is in a militia? 99% of my fights are inside or right outside a plex. I would like to see what percent of fighting I do with militia as opposed to non militia.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#18 - 2013-04-22 15:01:40 UTC
YES YES OH GOD YES

Cearain wrote:

1) ended gcc


nom nom

X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#19 - 2013-04-22 15:16:06 UTC
There is a militia column on your overview. All you have to do is enable it.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-04-22 15:32:41 UTC
SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:

Hell, for Provi dudes throwing another station means great content,

have never been to Provi. so.... content?
Personally i've built outpost in Etherium Rich. Did anyone notice?

SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:

for me and Tek disbanding the Sinners of Solitude coalition in 2 hours on TS without even undocking was great content.

so again: this is content only to "you, Tek and SoS coalition".

SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:

Look at the dude that stole 600 B worth of crap from SMA and all the drama that followed with attempted coups, etc

haven't heard again. content?

SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:

That's content that reaches the community more than a frig 1v1 which, while fun for the two dudes involved, creates nothing for everyone else.

not always 1v1 but gang vs gang.
add here influence and you have real content FOR SOME GROUP OF PEOPLE. As all of your contents

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