Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yup, not the same module really, but the concept is the same. Although in this case it is a targeted single ship instead of an AoE and therefore could be used in low/high sec.

To me, I think this type of module really fills a hole in EVE gameplay. Over the last few years we have seen a gradual move to situational modules (especially on battleships) where the 'Timing' of activation is important. Examples are ASB, AAR, MJD. Just trying to bring the same idea to EWAR and high slot weaponry.

The idea is to provide similar effects with less 'role based' effectiveness with a cooldown timer. Yes, there is overlap with other modules, but only in its effect, not in its utility. (ie constant lockdown (current ewar) vs temporary interruption (emp cannon)).

Would really love to see EvE move away from "all modules on, lock, fire" as a combat system.

Might need to expand on that a little.


TSB are interesting, but again a 'passive' module. While it may be a strategic choice to put one on your ship before you undock, its still more "ok, in a fight, turn on everything and manage range as best I can (cause there is no other decision making to do)" type of module.

On a slight tangent, TSB seems to have a high potential to disrupt the blob warfare and encourage smaller gang pvp... is it just that it isn't effective enough? or are people just not using it.

So wrapping up multiple modules into one is a good thing? Especially with the upcoming changes leaving quite a few bses able to fit it without losing dps, and what further planning would your module required other than to overh

Yes, If the result provides either less effectiveness (multi-spectral jammers, Power Diagnostic System) or provides separate utility (Micro Jump Drive) to the original function specific version.

Well you are not giving me much to work with here.

Obviously playtest balancing is required (reduction in duration, tweaking range/tracking/sig etc) but what we are attempting to put forward is a CONCEPT.

There are lots of ways to perform the same effect.

Alternatively the weapon could instantly reduce the targets cap to 0, and then provide increased cap regeneration for 10 seconds (potentially increasing the targets total cap above their original) etc.

Something like this... oh yes... would be lovely.

But it should act like this instead: the device has a chance to disrupt X amount of modules (active as opposed to passive). The device has a certain strength which may or may not overcome the modules natural resistance to disruption. Pilot skill can improve the modules chance to resist while pilot skill can improve the devices chance to disrupt. Pilot, ship, and module stats will determine length of time the module is knocked out for or how quickly the module can be recovered.

The device will damage, not knock out, shields, but when it does impact, it temporarily lowers the ships ability to regenerate shields and diminishes the repair ability of shield boosters (and armor repairers too?) - shield transport would be unaffected unless the target is a logi and their repper was knocked out.

Visually, the hull should be a dazzle of dancing electrical sizzle when the Ion/EMP hits that lasts for as long as the devices charge takes to dissipate. (dissipation being the unmodified time a module would be knocked out for)

The delicate nature of the weapon requires it to build up a charge before each shot - it will act similar to armor reppers in that it fires at the end of the cycle.

The larger the target, the more difficult it is to knock it out with smaller devices - but the effect can be cumulative eventually leading to a buildup resulting in the shorting of modules on larger vessels. The larger the device, the slower the buildup - ie module activation.

For cumulative hits to 'buildup' they have to strike and have overlapping dissipation with each other. X amount of overlapping build up equates to the equivalent of Y device.

Edit... forgot: the penalty is that it uses all of your current cap (you need a hard % to start the module) because it requires that much power for the build up and it prevents your cap from regenerating while the weapon is cycling. Could tinker with Cap Boosters binge used to speed up the charging with all the power they provide pushed to the weapon. The device does not auto-cycle and the discharge of the device leaves the ship briefly incapable of regenerating cap or even warping.

To the concept, why should a single module replace 2 high slot modules, one medium, and be stronger than an other ewar without any penalties that has the tracking of a short range gun out to 50km?

Serious balance issues aside, what's with the tracking speed and signature resolution on an ewar effect?

Because it is not a standard EWAR effect, it operates as a turret, with a projectile, and can miss. The weapon itself can only shoot one shot per 3 minutes and cannot be used to lock down a target indefinitly (ie NOT the same as standard EWAR).

Any ship that is regularly active tanked (i.e. Many Fleet Shield Ships) will be very vulnerable to this module... and the loss of 50-75% of their tank is pretty spot on...

Neuts have several in-game counters (NOS, Cap Booster, Remote Energy Xfer) and don't "instantly" shut off a tank.

I'd like to point out... there are no modules this potent in the game... A titan's DD is close, but also has serious drawbacks (can't jump for 10 minutes), massive cap and fuel costs, etc.), and is only available on Titans. Remote ECM bursts only break a lock, they don't shut down a ship.

So, with your idea here, you make an extremely powerful modules, that will be ubiquitously available on any BS hull, and it has basically no serious drawbacks. How can you possibly think this is balanced?