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Does Anyone Else See Cerebral Accelerators As Pay To Win?
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ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
#41 - 2011-11-01 18:01:51 UTC
I just don't want to see CAs turn into a toehold for CCP to run PTW out of the Nex stores.

No. I haven't gotten over the Incarna debacle.

No. I don't trust CCP at all, or believe anything that they say.
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
#42 - 2011-11-01 18:02:10 UTC  |  Edited by: ACY GTMI
EEEEK! Double post separated by the "We've Been Ganked" message.

Don't you just love the new forums?
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#43 - 2011-11-01 18:02:30 UTC
ACY GTMI wrote:
I think many will agree that anything which reduces the time line of the learning curve for new players is a good thing, but CAs aren't available without a cash injection that many new players will be hesitant to make.

Also, where is this leading? Cerebral Accelerators that just run on and on and are available at the Nex store?

I also think many will agree that isn't something we want.



Ho I can plug +5's and some +6's or +10, this is not fair !!

Wait...what?

Eat apples, drink tea.


Lol
Demon View
Doomheim
#44 - 2011-11-01 18:02:43 UTC
Twisted Alice wrote:
I thought they were tied to the account.

If they can be contracted then that's news to me.


Unless that's very new, no: they're not tied to any account; they can be contracted just fine. Availability depends on people willing to sell them, mind - I never saw more than a handful of contracts in the universe, when I looked for them.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#45 - 2011-11-01 18:06:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
If they are available via contract, that voids any accusation of pay to win immediately. Anyone could get them for ISK in game if they wished (and could actually derive any benefit from it).

Silly argument to begin with.

By that logic anything sold through the NEX could not be P2W either.


Give that man a cigar. Big smile

Edit: There are a lot of valid arguments out there to dislike the idea of the NeX store. Pay to Win was never one of them.

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Trainwreck McGee
Doomheim
#46 - 2011-11-01 18:10:01 UTC
Who cares so some nublets get a boost. No nublets are going to win anything even with this bonus.

Seriously people are really stretching for things to whine about these days.

CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
#47 - 2011-11-01 18:14:38 UTC
@ Ranger1, unless there is some new way to convert ISK into Aurum, I still think you are missing the point.

And, if it is possible to contract Nex store items, it's news to me.
Demon View
Doomheim
#48 - 2011-11-01 18:15:54 UTC
ACY GTMI wrote:
@ Ranger1, unless there is some new way to convert ISK into Aurum, I still think you are missing the point.


Buy a PLEX with isk, turn it into Aurum.
Twisted Alice
Doomheim
#49 - 2011-11-01 18:16:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Twisted Alice
ACY GTMI wrote:
@ Ranger1, unless there is some new way to convert ISK into Aurum, I still think you are missing the point.

And, if it is possible to contract Nex store items, it's news to me.






You buy a PLEX with isk and convert the PLEX into Aurum.




Edit: Demon beat me too it.

ACY GTMI how come you don't know this already?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#50 - 2011-11-01 18:17:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
ACY GTMI wrote:
@ Ranger1, unless there is some new way to convert ISK into Aurum, I still think you are missing the point.

And, if it is possible to contract Nex store items, it's news to me.


Few people ever spent money on NeX items. They bought their PLEX with ISk, then converted the PLEX into AURUM normally. The option is built directly into the NeX interface for simplicity.

And yes, any item purchased in the NeX store can be resold on the open market or via contract.

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Dag Loki
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2011-11-01 18:18:58 UTC
I take like 7 or 8 Cerebral Accelerators every day
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
#52 - 2011-11-01 18:18:59 UTC
I guess I'll quit 'whining' then.

I just love saying "I told you so", though. Big smile
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#53 - 2011-11-01 18:20:14 UTC
ACY GTMI wrote:
I guess I'll quit 'whining' then.

I just love saying "I told you so", though. Big smile


Fair enough. I can eat crow when it's warranted. Smile

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Galehund
The Right Corp
#54 - 2011-11-01 18:58:16 UTC
Twisted Alice wrote:
How many month old characters do you know that can win Eve?


All of them, since the only true way to win eve is to quit.
Rod Blaine
Evolution
Northern Coalition.
#55 - 2011-11-01 18:58:17 UTC
wow, +3 for 3 months, who cares? I've been playing since 2003 and i've only got half the sp i could have if i'd cared. So ******* what? SP ceases being your main limiting factor beyond tthe second or so year. So who cares wether nubs get a boost first few months? Willd o the game some good. I'd say, give em all 5m sp to start out with.
John Caesse
Just Post Inc.
#56 - 2011-11-01 19:38:23 UTC
If you want to pay to win, send me 3b or $200 USD (either is fine) and I guarantee you'll win at giving me 3b or $200 USD (or you could double win and send both!)
Vachir Khan
Rugged Ruff and Ready
#57 - 2011-11-01 19:40:49 UTC
I'm fiercely protective of the sandbox and very much against p2w, but the cerebral thing (while in and of itself being a boost) is not important or game breaking, simply because it's limited to a character age. So; no.
Ikarus Gaul
S I G M A
#58 - 2011-11-01 19:52:57 UTC
ACY GTMI wrote:
I just don't want to see CAs turn into a toehold for CCP to run PTW out of the Nex stores.

No. I haven't gotten over the Incarna debacle.

No. I don't trust CCP at all, or believe anything that they say.


What you're forgetting is that the Cerebral Accelerator is an item that compensates for the bucketload of skills that we used to get when starting a character. A system that was inherently flawed, and which was one of the reason that there were so many Achura bloodline alts...
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2011-11-01 20:24:49 UTC
OP's Machariel must have been solo'd by an Ibis.
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