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The only failure of Burn Jita.....

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-04-22 00:41:15 UTC
Is that it wasn't made public enough to willing participates not in the alliances.

I watched the feed and I got on a few kills through all my alts. (One on this character just to prove a point).

But it always felt I was being left out of the experience.

Quite a few times I missed out on making the frieghter kill because it was burned out faster than I could press the F1 key.

Next year, Goonswarm should really let their fleets be public and let people into their coms.

If they really want revolution of sorts they should really include the scrubs and organize it so that everyone is involved in the mass killings.

Personally I don't mind since I padded my KM's on all my accounts. Sadly only one frieghter on this one, but there is always next year.

Thanks for all the fish goons. It was a blast despite my trolling of you.

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Dave Stark
#2 - 2013-04-22 00:47:07 UTC
i thought the point of burn jita was to shoot the high sec players, not to fleet with them?
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-04-22 00:50:36 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
i thought the point of burn jita was to shoot the high sec players, not to fleet with them?


Well wouldn't the best achievement of EVE to be to get all the hi-sec pubbies into participating in killing each other.

Seriously, I saw plenty of otherwise normal hi-sec types go rouge and participate in freighter gankings.

That said, people tried to kill me several times while I was in bump mode of the frieghters. I put those kill rights up for grabs for any would be fools.

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Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#4 - 2013-04-22 00:58:05 UTC
This is the first thing I would consider to be semi-Goonish that the Goons in this game have done in my time here. Are they getting old and need replacement? Will the SA forums disown them for being too serous? Who knows, but they come across as a mere shadow of the Goons of old. Hell, they can't even handle a bit of highly irreverent, incredibly obvious trolling with out acting like old ladies who have just heard a teen swear in front of them......
Atrum Veneficus
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2013-04-22 01:06:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Atrum Veneficus
Setaceous wrote:
This is the first thing I would consider to be semi-Goonish that the Goons in this game have done in my time here. Are they getting old and need replacement? Will the SA forums disown them for being too serous? Who knows, but they come across as a mere shadow of the Goons of old. Hell, they can't even handle a bit of highly irreverent, incredibly obvious trolling with out acting like old ladies who have just heard a teen swear in front of them......


You know we did the same thing around this time last year?

And before that we shut down all Oxygen Isotope mining in hisec? And the Oxygen Isotope interdiction and the Hulkageddon that followed WERE open to the public. I personally paid out many a high sec dweller for their destruction of the mining bot.

Those were just in 2012.
Agent Trask
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-04-22 01:54:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Agent Trask
Making it completely public would be like setting firecrackers off in the woods the night before deer season.

Plenty of warning was given at Mitten's blog if you wanted to participate.

( next time I'll set my med clone to Jita so I can blood-jump in past the gates )

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EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#7 - 2013-04-22 02:10:04 UTC
How about you generate your own content instead of leeching off of everyone else?
Tank Talbot
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-04-22 02:13:33 UTC
I don’t know. I think the failure is that it turned the goons into high sec miners and garbage pickers with a little ratting thrown in for three days. I guess it was worth it if it was fun... I guess.
Thur Barbek
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-04-22 02:16:14 UTC
Agent Trask wrote:
Making it completely public would be like setting firecrackers off in the woods the night before deer season.

Plenty of warning was given at Mitten's blog if you wanted to participate.

( next time I'll set my med clone to Jita so I can blood-jump in past the gates )


The point is if you don't have access to goon/test fleets during the event, then you miss out on freighter kills:
1. Freighters they let E-warp then probe down to kill
2. They often have 3+ freighters being bumped at a time, good luck figuring out which one is going to die next.
3. Can't really do any smartbombing
4. Overall more ships are wasted suiciding because people will shoot too soon and shield will just regen.
5. If you want to help in other ways besides suiciding (bumping/scanning) you really can't.

Basically you are reduced to either using multiple alts to watch gates/undock to see where the next freighter is or hoping to "get lucky." Also since its about 20-25 min between freighter kills (GGC timer, reshipping, ect.) if you miss one you are left sitting there doing nothing until your next chance to guess right,
Rengerel en Distel
#10 - 2013-04-22 02:20:43 UTC
because whoring on KMs is the whole point of the event ...

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#11 - 2013-04-22 02:26:41 UTC
Atrum Veneficus wrote:
Setaceous wrote:
This is the first thing I would consider to be semi-Goonish that the Goons in this game have done in my time here. Are they getting old and need replacement? Will the SA forums disown them for being too serous? Who knows, but they come across as a mere shadow of the Goons of old. Hell, they can't even handle a bit of highly irreverent, incredibly obvious trolling with out acting like old ladies who have just heard a teen swear in front of them......


You know we did the same thing around this time last year?

And before that we shut down all Oxygen Isotope mining in hisec? And the Oxygen Isotope interdiction and the Hulkageddon that followed WERE open to the public. I personally paid out many a high sec dweller for their destruction of the mining bot.

Those were just in 2012.



But where is the crushing of souls and blatant disregard for others that the Goons are famous for? At least one of the things you listed there is actually beneficial to others.
Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#12 - 2013-04-22 03:28:47 UTC
Quote:
And before that we shut down all Oxygen Isotope mining in hisec?


That , even for GD, has to be one of the most ridiculous statments I have heard here.

You did make me ALOT of isk on Oxy Iso's though, thanks.

Nerf Goons

Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-04-22 03:34:34 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:

- If they really want revolution of sorts they should really include the scrubs and organize it so that everyone is involved in the mass killings.

- despite my trolling of you.


- That's really not how it works.

- Well, okay.

Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
#14 - 2013-04-22 10:55:06 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:

But it always felt I was being left out of the experience.....

.


How "involved" do you really expect to be when in a game of 30,000+ players can be logged on only 2000 are allowed into the system in the first place and probably more than half of that is market bots?

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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#15 - 2013-04-22 11:13:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ka'Narlist
Captain Tardbar wrote:

But it always felt I was being left out of the experience.

Thur Barbek wrote:

The point is if you don't have access to goon/test fleets during the event, then you miss out on freighter kills:

Why do you think we care wether some randum high sec pubbie can whore on our KMs or not?
OkaskiKali
Aussie Carebear OverLords
#16 - 2013-04-22 11:16:41 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
i thought the point of burn jita was to shoot the high sec players, not to fleet with them?


I have no idea why this post got so many likes.

Burn Jita is nothing but Goonswarm propaganda - "look what i can do".. For the most part i enjoy burn jita its funny to watch. On the other hand pigeon holing players into high sec versus low sec versus null sec just shows that you don't actually understand eve at all.

The tears shed over high sec is laughable. Where ever people play their game I am happy to see people remain loyal to the game despite these events which some people may call a complete breach of EULA.

I dont think for a second EULA comes into play but seriously this constant labelling has to stop it's getting ever so boring.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-04-22 11:19:34 UTC
Ka'Narlist wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:

But it always felt I was being left out of the experience.

Thur Barbek wrote:

The point is if you don't have access to goon/test fleets during the event, then you miss out on freighter kills:

Why do you think we care wether some randum high sec pubbie can ***** on our KMs or not?


Wouldn't you prefer to be a collective force of chaos encouraging the average Joe to participate in anti-social acts?

Surely that would be a spiritual win.

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Talocan Emmisary
#18 - 2013-04-22 11:43:05 UTC
LULZ... the irony...

Confirming, I was born naked. 

Kismeteer
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2013-04-22 13:48:54 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Is that it wasn't made public enough to willing participates not in the alliances.

I watched the feed and I got on a few kills through all my alts. (One on this character just to prove a point).

But it always felt I was being left out of the experience.


If you are not in alliance, you are missing so much of eve. The political fights and the major cap fights are worth playing for. Not ratting your brains out to barely make $1 an hour to pay for your game time.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#20 - 2013-04-22 14:07:57 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
i thought the point of burn jita was to shoot the high sec players, not to fleet with them?


Odd, my impression was that the whole point was for Goons to donate their names as CONCORD assists to hisec player killboards?

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

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