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BLOOD RAIDERS PILLAGE RELIGIOUS SITE ON SAIKAMON

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Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#21 - 2013-04-16 00:51:15 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Ava Starfire wrote:
If ever there was something I agree with the Amarr on, the Blood Raiders are that thing.

Hopefully they one day will all face justice. Or they'll all die, which, come to think of it, is precisely the justice they deserve.


Boo.

And to think I went shopping with you that time.

Boo.

boo

booooo


Pretty sure you neglected to tell me about those of your faith who hang people from hooks to collect blood as they bleed to death.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"

Zakar Shazih
Doomheim
#22 - 2013-04-16 09:24:09 UTC
Excellent news.The artifacts are now in the rightful place with those following the one true faith.

Power is not something that is granted - it is something to be taken. Your future awaits....................................join channel "Sani Sabik"

Bai'xao Meiyi
#23 - 2013-04-21 15:57:31 UTC
Hopefully, this'll teach the Amarr to not skimp on security quite as much as they do.

I'm glad the relics are now in the hands of the one true faith, even if I have quibbles with the sect. Congratulations to the Sabik that fought long and hard for the repossession of the artifacts. I'm sure we'll take much better care of them then the Amarrians did.
Drake Arson
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#24 - 2013-04-21 18:31:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Drake Arson
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Drake Arson
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#25 - 2013-04-21 18:31:53 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
You have my utmost appreciation for your warning, Lord Pitoojee. May you walk forever in wisdom.



Msr. Chu-Li, you should be advised that you are speaking to a person pretending to be a Holder whilst openly keeping friends with Sansha, Blood Raiders and other pirate groups, under the pretense of serving the Amarr Navy in its corrupt militia. During this he regularly accused me of various things and lies, trying to smear my good name and reputation for the sake of some personal grudge he holds against me I suppose, and furiously denying the considerable bulk of evidence regarding his own criminal background.

In other words, take what he says with a grain of salt. Or several. Or a freighter's worth.


No.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-04-21 21:55:16 UTC
So much needless fighting and chaos over but a few statues, garments, and other rather useless items that only have as much meaning as you give it.

I do feel bad for the Amarr though. Unlike organized and somewhat less creepy religions, cults don't last too long either losing their popularity overtime or committing mass suicide so their souls can be saved by a Jovian Mothership.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#27 - 2013-04-22 02:42:38 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:

I do feel bad for the Amarr though. Unlike organized and somewhat less creepy religions, cults don't last too long either losing their popularity overtime or committing mass suicide so their souls can be saved by a Jovian Mothership.




We were doing our holy work a few thousand years before your federation was even a whisper.

We will be doing our work after you are dead and forgotten.

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Mensha Khael Crow
House Murder
#28 - 2013-04-22 08:13:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Mensha Khael Crow
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:

I do feel bad for the Amarr though. Unlike organized and somewhat less creepy religions, cults don't last too long either losing their popularity overtime or committing mass suicide so their souls can be saved by a Jovian Mothership.




We were doing our holy work a few thousand years before your federation was even a whisper.

We will be doing our work after you are dead and forgotten.


Aside from the obvious caveats, I suppose I could even look forward to this Gallantean cult of freedom finishing itself off in a mass suicide. The blessed reduction of idiocy of this manner just might reduce the bitterness of having to share a common cause of jubilation with some heretics, palatable.

I will offer my congratulations for a game well played, even if one much too vulgar in style to my taste.

M.K.C
Our righteousness is evident in the failures of the heathen, God keep us from falling prey to their weaknesses.
Uriel Khaden
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2013-04-22 09:52:57 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
So much needless fighting and chaos over but a few statues, garments, and other rather useless items that only have as much meaning as you give it.


For a people that constantly espouse freedom, liberty and cultural understanding; an alarming number of Gallente express complete disregard for the cultural points and intricacies of others, even their own allies.

It is disheartening to see these relics perverted by the hands of Blood Raider heretics. There will come a time when the righteous reclaim them, I only pray they are not defiled beyond recognition by that point.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#30 - 2013-04-22 12:30:35 UTC
Khaden;

how about you let Federation allies speak for themselves? An Amarrian trying to speak for the Matari needs to seriously shut up about "respecting cultural points and intricacies of others".

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Sebiestor
Uriel Khaden
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2013-04-22 12:35:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Khaden
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
Khaden;

how about you let Federation allies speak for themselves? An Amarrian trying to speak for the Matari needs to seriously shut up about "respecting cultural points and intricacies of others".


I was referencing recent released news articles where allies of the Federation have done just that, not to mention the communications here on IGS in the past week where that exact sentiment was expressed several times. Ultimately, I was speaking about the flippancy regarding my own heritage and culture and letting the Minmatar speak for themselves.

It is interesting to me how you specifically chose four words out of my entire message to attack.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#32 - 2013-04-22 12:41:55 UTC
Learn to count. I also referenced the part where you accuse them of not understanding the cultural points and intricacies of others. An Amarrian trying to admonish allies of the Minmatar for treating us badly is a prime example of not understanding those and acting in the condescending, pseudo-understanding manner which the Federation is often accused of.

That you do not have the decency to apologize when called on it is merely further proof of pot calling kettle black.

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Sebiestor
Uriel Khaden
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2013-04-22 12:44:05 UTC
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
Learn to count.


"[...]even their own allies[...]"

One. Two. Three. Four.

The rest of that statement is not a reference to the Minmatar.


Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
I also referenced the part where you accuse them of not understanding the cultural points and intricacies of others. An Amarrian trying to admonish allies of the Minmatar for treating us badly is a prime example of not understanding those and acting in a condescending, pseudo-understanding way that the Federation is often accused of.


Except I was speaking in general, and more specifically about the sentiment expressed in this very thread regarding Amarrian religious culture and heritage. Context, Miss Rhiannon.

Sepherim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2013-04-22 12:45:14 UTC
Actually, he was just pointing out the hypocrisy in the Gallente in general:

Uriel Khaden wrote:
even their own allies


Which means they do it with everyone, as they have done here with us the Amarr. It is a hypocrisy to preach respect, freedom of expression, tolerance, etc. and then proceed to act in the opposite manner on every occasion.

Sepherim Catillah Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Liuteneant Ex-Imperial Navy Imperator Commander

BloodBird
The Crucible.
#35 - 2013-04-22 14:01:56 UTC
Sepherim wrote:
Actually, he was just pointing out the hypocrisy in the Gallente in general:

Uriel Khaden wrote:
even their own allies


Which means they do it with everyone, as they have done here with us the Amarr. It is a hypocrisy to preach respect, freedom of expression, tolerance, etc. and then proceed to act in the opposite manner on every occasion.


If I were to take your words as a general representation of the whole Amarrian Empire - a nation of trillions - I would be doing those aforementioned trillions a great disservice.

Fortunately for me, I know of a great deal of Imperialist Amarr and many others who are no longer citizens of your Empire, that frankly paint a far better and more respectable picture for me, so I don't have to take your words here at anything but face value and as representing anyone but your own generalizing self.

If only you could do the same for the one who started this childish bickering we would be better off.

More on the topic at hand, I don't expect your organization to inform *me* specifically about this, so I won't ask, but I will state that I hope you are doing something about this, if it is possible. It is not in my interest to let the Blood Raiders get away with anything, but I am tied up with other matters, and this specific case is none of my affair.

Uriel Khaden
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2013-04-22 14:09:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Khaden
BloodBird wrote:


If I were to take your words as a general representation of the whole Amarrian Empire - a nation of trillions - I would be doing those aforementioned trillions a great disservice.

Fortunately for me, I know of a great deal of Imperialist Amarr and many others who are no longer citizens of your Empire, that frankly paint a far better and more respectable picture for me, so I don't have to take your words here at anything but face value and as representing anyone but your own generalizing self.


I am unsure if you're addressing me or not, Captain Bloodbird, so if you are not then I apologize in advance for misunderstanding. However, in my own defense:

Uriel Khaden wrote:
For a people that constantly espouse freedom, liberty and cultural understanding; an alarming number of Gallente express complete disregard for the cultural points and intricacies of others, even their own allies.


I actually did specify that it was individuals, not the whole. Specifically, I stated that quite a few individuals, more than I would have expected are guilty of the practice, but I did not target the whole.

I suspect, based on context, that at least the last part of your message was directly to Ensign Catillah. If the entire message was, again you have my apology for misunderstanding.
Sepherim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2013-04-22 14:56:02 UTC
In case the comment was for me instead for captain Khaden, who has just replied in case it was for him, my answer:

BloodBird wrote:
If I were to take your words as a general representation of the whole Amarrian Empire - a nation of trillions - I would be doing those aforementioned trillions a great disservice.

Fortunately for me, I know of a great deal of Imperialist Amarr and many others who are no longer citizens of your Empire, that frankly paint a far better and more respectable picture for me, so I don't have to take your words here at anything but face value and as representing anyone but your own generalizing self.

If only you could do the same for the one who started this childish bickering we would be better off.


Those were not my words, I was just trying to explain to captain Rhiannon what captain Khaden have said.

If you want my opinion, unfortunately all factions are full of hypocrites who only pay lip service to those things they are expected to believe in. But even if there are many of those, there are still more who actually do represent and believe those things that their faction holds dear. So yes, I do agree with your words, captain Bloodbird.

Quote:
More on the topic at hand, I don't expect your organization to inform *me* specifically about this, so I won't ask, but I will state that I hope you are doing something about this, if it is possible. It is not in my interest to let the Blood Raiders get away with anything, but I am tied up with other matters, and this specific case is none of my affair.


I'm afraid I can't say at the moment, since I'm not a member of the leaders of the Praetoria. But I'm sure that the Admiral, Commodore and Commanders are well aware of what has happened, and will act upon it when time comes if it is possible. But, as things stand now, the situation in the Bleak Lands is quite terrible, so I'm sure it'll be a complicated decission for them to withdraw ressources from where they are so needed right now.

In any case, as I say, I do not know.

Sepherim Catillah Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Liuteneant Ex-Imperial Navy Imperator Commander

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#38 - 2013-04-22 15:04:56 UTC
Bleaks is just fine. Go kill Raiders.

And I understood what Khaden said. He is not completely wrong, either. That is not the point.

Else
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#39 - 2013-04-22 15:28:39 UTC
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
Go kill Raiders.


The best way to execute a Sabik is with a wooden stake through the heart.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-04-22 15:31:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Fredfredbug4
Silas Vitalia wrote:

We were doing our holy work a few thousand years before your federation was even a whisper.

We will be doing our work after you are dead and forgotten.


Ah thank you. Almost forgot the constant cliche of a cult existing since the dawn of time and lasting eternally. Come on you guys can think of something better than that right? And blood, why not drink another bodily fluid? There are so many others and you chose blood? How trite! Sometimes I debate whether or not the Amarrian fables meant to scare children are based off of your group, or your group is based off of the fables.

Mensha Khael Crow wrote:

Aside from the obvious caveats, I suppose I could even look forward to this Gallantean cult of freedom finishing itself off in a mass suicide. The blessed reduction of idiocy of this manner just might reduce the bitterness of having to share a common cause of jubilation with some heretics, palatable.


Freedom is not the problem with the Federation, it's hedonism. Our society has been degenerating at a rapid rate, and only a handful of the population can recognize the problem. Mentas Blaque if he was to become President would certainly help turn things around, if at the cost of damaging our foreign relations, though if we collapse from the inside there we won't be able to establish relations with others now would we?

Uriel Khaden wrote:

For a people that constantly espouse freedom, liberty and cultural understanding; an alarming number of Gallente express complete disregard for the cultural points and intricacies of others, even their own allies.


Forgive my rhetoric, I believe you misinterpreted what I was saying. I was merely expressing my individual opinions on the artifacts and the fighting over them, however nowhere did I disregard Amarr culture. Just because I don't find those objects meaningful doesn't mean you can't.

You are correct in the sense that there are many Gallente who do what you claim, though I feel that I should not be placed in the same category as they.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

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