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Low sec turrets are too easily tanked problem fix proposal
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Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
#1 - 2013-04-20 12:14:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Mikhem
There has been complaints that low sec gate turrets are too easy to destroy. I have proposal to fix this and it involves capsuleer activity.

Each low sec turret sends data to map if it is under attack. This allows capsuleers to defend turrets. You know immediately if turret is under attack somewhere in low sec and you can go and defend it. This is moment when pirates are vulnerable and easier to destroy.

Comments are welcome for my idea.

Edited extras here:

Turrets could also transmit their repair status to map. You could immediately see if there's damaged turrets somewhere in low sec and go repair it with remote repairer.

2nd edit:

Yes it seems that gate guns cannot be destroyed. Ill then change my original idea a bit: Make low sec gate guns more powerful but destructible. This gives pirates chance to clean gate guns for gate camp. Map reveals if gate guns are under attack and attracts anti-pirate gangs. Map also reveals if gate guns are damaged and friendly capsuleer can come in and repair it.

There has been complaints that gate guns are too easily tanked and CCP has made proposal that gate guns could have fire power increasing over time. Above there is my alternative proposal for this. I don't want to see completely safe low sec. It's terrible idea.

3rd edit:

Destroyed gate guns would appear again after each downtime and there would appear occational NPC pirate gangs to gates that have no gate guns. This system would also allow travel planning. Capsuleers could see status of gate guns in map and make decision when they want to enter low sec. Gate guns are up = safer to enter.

Mikhem

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Azrael Dinn
Imperial Mechanics
#2 - 2013-04-20 12:22:39 UTC
I don't know much about low sec except it's full of pirates and other tear drinking nerds.

If you are brave enough to try to attempt to fix a gate gun even if you would be allows to... the tear drinking nerds and pirates will blow you up while your doing it. So there realy aint any other choise except to make the guns much much tougher and more powerful if you want to do something to them. And this is something in my opinion that is ok to do... cause well nothing is more juicy than a pirates or nerds cry when they loose something.

The end.

But on the serious note of thing your proposal would not have much effect on anything.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-04-20 12:31:31 UTC
I'm pretty sure gate guns are indestructible.
DataRunner Attor
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-04-20 17:27:44 UTC
I'm very sure that gate guns can't be targeted.....

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Shadow Cartel
#5 - 2013-04-20 17:41:40 UTC
First two posters are from hisec, I can see it from the pixels

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#6 - 2013-04-20 19:20:08 UTC
DataRunner Attor wrote:
I'm very sure that gate guns can't be targeted.....
They can, we use to use them for gaining GCC. But I've never seen one destroyed.

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Fatbear
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-04-20 20:29:31 UTC
Mikhem wrote:
I've got an idea about lowsec, but I've never been in lowsec.



Fixed.
DataRunner Attor
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-04-20 22:01:42 UTC
Mag's wrote:
DataRunner Attor wrote:
I'm very sure that gate guns can't be targeted.....
They can, we use to use them for gaining GCC. But I've never seen one destroyed.


Huh, Look at that we learn something new every day! I normally don't make a habit of agroing anything that can quite easily kill me. >_>;

My ships I normally fly an't made for direct fire combat....*Coughs* cloakers *coughs* But thanks for clearing that up!

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mai Talie-Kuo
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-04-20 22:06:54 UTC
im pretty sure you cannot kill gate guns but they are easily tanked in general. i think gate guns should have a scale over time damage to keep blobs of bs from camping low sec for hours. but welcome to eve

as for gate guns sending out S.O.S we dont need more things that add server load.

just be aware that the threat of low sec gate camps is out there. and HTFU.
Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
#10 - 2013-04-21 08:49:19 UTC
OK I updated my original thread to contain some new information. Thank you all for comments. My idea still lives but it is now updated. Read original post for more information.

Comments are still welcome. Keep them coming!

Mikhem

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Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2013-04-21 09:38:22 UTC
I personally think they should be removed all together. It is not easy to solo in low sec in a frig or cruiser as you can't do anything on the gate.
ExAstra
Echoes of Silence
#12 - 2013-04-21 12:11:45 UTC
Mikhem wrote:
There has been complaints that low sec gate turrets are too easy to destroy.


Mikhem wrote:
2nd edit:

Yes it seems that gate guns cannot be destroyed. Ill then change my original idea a bit


Credibility out the window and we just barely got started.

Also I don't see any immediate problem with gate guns in low sec. Why exactly do we want to make them more powerful, but destroyable? I don't see exactly what this adds to gameplay value.

Save the drones!
Mag's
Azn Empire
#13 - 2013-04-21 12:48:06 UTC
Mikhem wrote:
Gate guns are up = safer to enter.
It wouldn't and none of your ideas change that fact.

I think it best you simply stop posting now. How can you even begin to suggest changes to the game, when It's quite obvious you have no clue regarding game mechanics?

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Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-04-21 14:18:56 UTC
mai Talie-Kuo wrote:
im pretty sure you cannot kill gate guns but they are easily tanked in general. i think gate guns should have a scale over time damage to keep blobs of bs from camping low sec for hours. but welcome to eve


They were going to do that, but then the immense flood of pirate tears on the forums swept away the proposals and CCP had to backtrack. I think it would have been implemented in inferno a year ago if it was not for that.
Donedy
Lulzsec Space
#15 - 2013-04-21 17:04:11 UTC
Im gonna create a topic about how sentries are to painfull, and how to solve it.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-04-24 16:02:35 UTC
Howabout just make each gate come equipped with varying size turrets, some with excellent tracking and crap DPS, some with crap tracking and excellent DPS,, and some somewhere in the middle. That way the DPS can be tuned to give battleships a hard time without disallowing frigates in gate camps. The DPS should be high enough that the campers would need strong logi support even if they're orbiting with afterburners.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#17 - 2013-04-24 17:07:01 UTC
so, um, remove gate guns?

problem solved!

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