Warfare & Tactics

Before i start this thread properly a few notes.


I do not RP, I rarely post on thread and i really can not be bothered with the we are better than you comments which most threads degenerate into.


This thread is my view about Enaluri and it has been echoed a few times.


so here we go.


The Gallente Fortress has been for a long time now has been Nennamalia, It suffered from an beyond abysmal market, no clones, no near link to Dodixie ( most of us have Jita and hauling alts ). This can make life a little difficult. However apart from all the above and the 90au warp we have to cover if some one scream for help. It is nice.

The Caldari fortress seemed to have become Enlauri. With cloning, next to no real market . These systems are next door to each other.

This resulted especially for the last month, 2 months has created some phenomenal fights, both sides can undock and be in a fight within around 10 seconds. This for us who like to pvp and are less concerned over Plexing and Sov is a dream come true. With these fights came pirates, Goons, Test, FCON, Snuff box, Shadow Cartel to name but a few. This gave These two systems constant dynamic fights. It was for all intents and purposes to the PvPer a dream come true. I cannot and will not comment on the state of Caldari Facwar because i simply do not know it. What i can say is they were relentless in the deplexing and offensive plexing in and around Nennamalia. This in tern generated fights, escalations from Frigs to Cruisers. What more could a Pvper, FC any one want?

This equilibrium lasted for about a month and a half. Then the Fantastic group that is Smile and wave - a fairly large Minmatar Alliance Moved near Nennamalia.

This caused a "slight" inbalance to the dynamic. While US time zones were strong for the Gallente we suffered on our EU time zone presence which meant what ever was plexed was deplexed by the time the next time zone kicked in.

With these extra numbers and certain entities actively pushing for Enaluri to be taken. Within 3 days the system had flipped.

This was in my opinion a huge mistake.

The Caldari now seem to be scattered Some big names have left Facwar entirely, some just to secure assets, other have moved to empire space and a few have moved to Loes and another constellation beginning with Y which i cannot for the life of me remember . Now back before Enaluri was flipped local would sit at 30 average and sometimes hit 130 give or take. It was mental and many people loved this.

Now Local sits at 10. With barely any fights.

Now you may think wow, this guy can not go 10 jumps before a fight. But i think it kinda shows that actually wining the "war" for some isn't all that. for some it is purely about PvP. I really hope Facwar gets that good again. So Caldari my plea to you... Pull together and come bring the fight. We are ready.


Sorry for the horrible spelling and grammer. This post i hope doesn't dissolve into fighting or sniping at each other. Would be nice to hear other peoples opinions.

Glitchy

But you claim the the large amounts of fights never would have happened if it werent for station lock outs. (I think that is your point below) On that I mostly disagree.

Of course you disagree. What's new? You should start listing some massive multi-day FW battles that did not have station lockouts as a consequence for not undocking.

Off the top of my head I've got Kamela (right before station lockouts started), Dal (a month or so ago), Rakapas (6 months ago), Enaluri (last weekend) on my list. Edit: And of course the long siege of Eha over this winter.

Show me your list.

Like I said, at best, you have 2 or 3 per warzone per year. Thats 1 every 4-6 months. Yep its been about a year since inferno.

So, no big weekend brawls without threat of station lockouts. Got it. .

You personally don't have fun doing this stuff and therefore don't want anybody else to have fun doing it either. Fine. We get it. You can patrol the other 99 systems that weren't under attack last weekend.

Im sorry but this is wrong that level of fighting never used to happen before because noone gave a sh*t who owned any system before there was no repercussions and didnt have to fight to keep there home wed go enaluri itd just end in blueballs.

No im talking about the fight for home systems people didnt care who owned it before everyone could dock whanever they wanted noone cared bout the system owner. Station lockouts are a conflict driver imo esp in said home/strategic systems

Now Local sits at 10. With barely any fights.

There were still system owners before station lockouts. Players tended to enforce the ownership rather than ccp mechnics. But there were still system owners.

There is almost no strategy in the current fw mechanics. Calling the taking of Enaluri a "strategy" is a bit of a stretch isn't it?

Strategies that the smaller side has become even more limitted when they can dock in very few places.

I will agree that station lockouts can be a conflict driver. I think about 1-2 times a year you can expect to see a big push for a system. But the meantime the cost to pvp in general far outweighs these very infrequent events. The overall intensity of the war drops when the enemies are seperated.

All this crying from the Caldari about how good it was and how the gals and mins should have just let it stay that way.

This is FW, not null. You want staged fights and no sov battles cause it messes up your daily routine, go live in the big blue donut. Otherwise, suck it up and fight the war, one battle at a time.

War involves logistics, not just massing ships into two systems. Strategy, numbers, allies, mercs, tactics, diplomacy... it what makes eve, eve. Without it we might as well just be playing a flight sim.