Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So what's the rationale behind not having a warp to zero autopilot?

It relegates certain professions to essentially afk activities (hauling) and it provides little or no advantage for those who are actually interacting with the game, except with alts to web freighters.

Why do people keep asking for warp to zero autopilot?

Because doing more than 3 jumps becomes ludicrously tedious. Select the gate, hit D, read internet until jump. Wash, rinse, repeat. On some ships modules are activated after gate cloak (tank, cloak) but not much interaction.

I propose a warp to zero autopilot with the caveat that the warp drive needs to navigate subspace disruptions that need to be avoided: Every vessel that traverses a path disrupt space for some time based on its mass (similar to wormhole mechanics) and slows down warp speed. Pilots then would turn on autopilot but if they don't alter the path from the default, they face a significant warp speed delay and/or capacitor cost. The solar system map would then have a heat map of lines where there's the most disruption that you want to avoid.

The job of the time sensitive pilot would be to place route waypoint pins for intrasystem routes that avoid the spatial disruption that slow down travel time, while more lazy pilots can go make a sandwich and then come back to do more route planning.

Ganking is still entirely possible, on gate exits. I propose a subspace disruption generator module to force early exit of autopiloting, similar to warp disruption bubbles but that doesn't affect actively piloted ships (module activation indicates active piloting in a system) to address the loss of gate entry scan/gank doctrine. Further, subspace disruption generators can be used to force larger levels of route disruption for strategic purposes...

The purpose of this is to make long travel times more interesting, faster for interactive play, possible for AFK with similar risk and travel time penalty to today, and to make making bookmarks for safespots more interesting less tedious (placing route pins opens up more possibilities for making bookmarks than the static warp between celestial options today along with providing some intel on most widely used routes (the lines of subspace disruption indicate where the largest mass vessels have travelled.)

Probably far too much dev work to implement, but I thought I'd suggest it.

I'm guessing you didn't actually read the proposal.

If someone hits autopilot and goes away under this proposal, they take at least as long as today if not longer, and is vulnerable to to ganking just as much as today. This isn't for AFK pilots, as they'll get pulled out of warp scanned, and ganked if there's anything to gank them for.

I think that the warp to 0 would be good by itself. What is the good point on allowing the autopilot to warp to 10? more time for gankers in hi-sec? more waiting time for players that have no patience to make the 30 hi-sec jumps one by one?

In 0.0 and Null-sec you never should use it for well known reasons. You have to react fast on each gate, especially if there are bubbles or gate-camps.

If you have something valuable in your cargo, you will not use autopilot. Also you would have to activate cloak, hardeners on every gate even if the autopilot would warp you to 0.

In hi-sec / low-sec most profitable ganks occur not when the ship is arriving in the gate, but when it is about to leave.

AFK = Another Free Kill.

If you read this article: http://evenews24.com/2013/04/16/mabrick-i-quit-eve/
you will se that one of the most common reason why people don't play eve or why they leave eve is the extremely long travels.
I think a auto-warp to 0 would be beneficial to eve.

If there are people that risk braking the EULA just to have a warp to 0 so they can avoid more boredom. I think that maybe is time for CCP to look at it.

Warp to 10 is not a good feature of EVE, it is bad for the game.

If you compare the warp to 10 and the warp to 0 what are their good and bad points?

The warp to 10 only make player bored with eve.

Again, this proposal punishes AFK pilots exactly as much as it does today. I'm not sure why people assume I'm suggesting an easy AFK switch, or why people get so reactionary about this issue.

The problem with traveling is its tedious, and I was proposing a system where it was interactive and not as tedious.

He is speaking about missions...
Also looks like this guy didnt even piloted a battleship (he may be didnt even played a month), so one of the "main reasons" about quitting eve, i dont think so, at all.

Just to say I completely disagree with warp to 0 autopilot,it would be just encouring afk as someone already said.

fixd that for you.

The autopilot is bascially a legal travelling bot. (Which mostly aids traders.)

I guess that CCP just made a decision of where to draw a line to make their own bot inefficient enough to not be appealing to general botting practitioners.

Except one wouldn't apparently know who is APing and who isn't - that's the core of your proposal.

And in what way exactly would plotting a warp-route and watching your ship warp be more engaging than pressing one button and watching your ship warp? It would just add some more tedious actions before you're able to return to your browser...

The ONLY way to make travel less tedious is AP-to-0. Which would be a broken mechanic.

So No. All the way. I don't want "engaging" minigames either.

autopilot is bad anyway, and AFK shouldn't be tolerated in this game.

one who use autopilot is AFK.

one good point tho, when you have to travel several systems, it gets boring.


then if it gets boring, to the point ppl want to afk the whole time they do it, i propose to change the travel time.

2 way to do that, shorten the distances (all of them) but this could make some distance so short that slowboat would be possible, would shorten grids etc....


i propose the 2nd one:

mutliply all the current warp speed by 2 (ie frig 12 AU/s, Bigger 6AU/s intys 27AU/s)

you shorten the travel time, in a balanced manner, without breaking the game (subwarp speed remain untouched obviously).

and you get rid o the autopilot, after all, it is nothing else than a macro.

another good side of this, you solve the current issue with all the ships that have not a rounded warp speed, the 0.5au/s is currently not applied cause of a bug

imao, AP should be trashed, it is of no use for any sane person.

using it outside of high is suicide, and in high, you go 2*faster manually doing it, so it is useless