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What Drone Skills Affect Fighters and Fighter Bombers?
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Rellin Kajer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-04-04 22:29:52 UTC
I am training a pure Aeon pilot and I do not think any of the drone skills affect fighters or fighter bombers, so I do not need to train any of them. Is this correct?
AtheistOfFail
Totality Squad
Vyraj.
#2 - 2013-04-04 22:40:44 UTC
Rellin Kajer wrote:
I am training a pure Aeon pilot and I do not think any of the drone skills affect fighters or fighter bombers, so I do not need to train any of them. Is this correct?


Drone interfacing, drones 5?
Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#3 - 2013-04-05 00:33:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelique Duchemin
I'm going to be easy here and ignore suggesting skills that as prerequisites are needed to be at 5 to even learn the skills in the first place.

Fighters are only effected by the Fighter skill and Fighter Bombers are only effected by the Fighter Bomber skill.

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Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#4 - 2013-04-05 09:04:19 UTC
Gallente Carrier skill
Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#5 - 2013-04-05 13:49:51 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Gallente Carrier skill



Which is just a fantastic skill to have when you fly an Amarr Super Cap.

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Bloody Wench
#6 - 2013-04-05 13:58:37 UTC
Skills:
Drone Durability, Drone Sharpshooting, Drone Navigation, Fighters.

Ship Bonuses
Damage Modifier


Modules:
Tracking
Nav Computer
Drone Control Unit




At least that's what EVEHQ thinks. It's been wrong before.

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Bloody Wench
#7 - 2013-04-05 14:00:12 UTC
oh yeah and this...

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You are a frightened child running headfirst towards oblivion.

And I?
I am the only one who tried to stop you.
I am the Messiah that you turned against.

You persecuted me, hunted my children.
Vowed to burn my Promised Land to ash.


Now I have returned, and I know you better than you know yourself.

I will vanquish your fear, and commute your flesh to dust.

- Sansha Kuvakei



Note: This ship class is capable of carrying only fighters and fighter bombers in its drone bay.

Special Ability:
100% bonus to fighter, fighter-bomber damage and hitpoints

Amarr Carrier Skill Bonuses:
10% bonus to fighter and fighter-bomber max velocity per level
Can fit 1 additional Warfare Link module per level

Caldari Carrier Skill Bonuses:
50% bonus to Capital Energy and Shield transfer range per level
Can deploy 1 additional Fighters or Fighter Bombers per level

Role Bonuses:
Can fit Projected Electronic Counter Measures
200% bonus to Fighter or Fighter Bomber control range
Immune to all forms of Electronic Warfare

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Rellin Kajer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-04-05 21:06:28 UTC
Are you sure that these actually affect fighters and fight bombers? I was under the impression that they did not.

Skills:
Drone Durability, Drone Sharpshooting, Drone Navigation.
Bloody Wench
#9 - 2013-04-06 00:02:15 UTC
Even if they don't, what possible excuse do you have as a carrier pilot for not having them at 5?

As a strictly Mothership only forever pilot, then ok there may be a case for it.

I'm relying on the EVEHQ property window for the info, which as already said, has been wrong before.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#10 - 2013-04-06 02:13:44 UTC
No Drone skill affects Fighters and Bombers except for their namesake skills.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-04-06 08:05:08 UTC
none of them, because theyre not drones.

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Jarlaxly
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-04-06 09:02:59 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
none of them, because theyre not drones.


Jack is correct, for the umpteenth time. Fighters/Fighter Bombers are not drones, they are manned fighting ships.

Only Fighters V & Fighter Bombers V will put them at their maximum.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#13 - 2013-04-06 14:56:27 UTC  |  Edited by: RavenPaine
Rellin Kajer wrote:
I am training a pure Aeon pilot and I do not think any of the drone skills affect fighters or fighter bombers, so I do not need to train any of them. Is this correct?



You will need to train:
Drones to V, to unlock Drone Interfacing
Drone Interfacing to V to unlock Fighters (And qualify to train any Carrier)
Fighters to V to unlock Fighter Bombers

As others have stated, no (other) drone skills affect the performance of the Fighters or Fighter Bombers
Rellin Kajer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-04-06 16:21:25 UTC
I already have fighter bombers 5, so I am all good. Thanks a lot people!!!
Rellin Kajer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-04-06 16:23:25 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
Even if they don't, what possible excuse do you have as a carrier pilot for not having them at 5?

As a strictly Mothership only forever pilot, then ok there may be a case for it.[


A super carrier pilot is pretty much always a "forever pilot" as the ship can't dock. I don't know anyone who uses their super pilot for anything other than supering.
Officer Nyota Uhura
#16 - 2013-04-07 14:53:13 UTC
Rellin Kajer wrote:
Bloody Wench wrote:
Even if they don't, what possible excuse do you have as a carrier pilot for not having them at 5?

As a strictly Mothership only forever pilot, then ok there may be a case for it.[


A super carrier pilot is pretty much always a "forever pilot" as the ship can't dock. I don't know anyone who uses their super pilot for anything other than supering.

I use.
I've got a sitter char for it and I change between them pretty often. Carrier for pos repairs, dread for pos bashes, super for trolol drops. I'm in a smallish corp and we couldn't respond to a cap -> supercap escalation anyway, so it doesn't matter that I'm not in a super when we've got a dread/pos repair op.
Rellin Kajer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-04-15 17:40:47 UTC
Officer Nyota Uhura wrote:
Rellin Kajer wrote:
Bloody Wench wrote:
Even if they don't, what possible excuse do you have as a carrier pilot for not having them at 5?

As a strictly Mothership only forever pilot, then ok there may be a case for it.[


A super carrier pilot is pretty much always a "forever pilot" as the ship can't dock. I don't know anyone who uses their super pilot for anything other than supering.

I use.
I've got a sitter char for it and I change between them pretty often. Carrier for pos repairs, dread for pos bashes, super for trolol drops. I'm in a smallish corp and we couldn't respond to a cap -> supercap escalation anyway, so it doesn't matter that I'm not in a super when we've got a dread/pos repair op.


My main has 135M SP and can fly every ship in the game, so no need to use a super pilot for that stuff.Lol
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#18 - 2013-04-17 13:40:01 UTC
Rellin Kajer wrote:
Bloody Wench wrote:
Even if they don't, what possible excuse do you have as a carrier pilot for not having them at 5?

As a strictly Mothership only forever pilot, then ok there may be a case for it.[


A super carrier pilot is pretty much always a "forever pilot" as the ship can't dock. I don't know anyone who uses their super pilot for anything other than supering.

Can you dock super carriers at capital ship maintenance bays in a POS?

If so the removal of the requirement for the capital ships sov up grade will allow them to be docked at any POS with a CSMA.

Never tested this, I just assumed since the CSMA had the same prerequisites as the CSAA supers could be docked in one.
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#19 - 2013-04-17 13:53:07 UTC
So much misinformation....

The only skills that directly affect fighters and fighter bombers are the skills 'Fighters' and 'Fighter Bombers' unless you're flying a Gallente (super)carrier. Done.

Damn nature, you scary!
Mrchafe
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#20 - 2013-04-18 21:03:02 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
Rellin Kajer wrote:
Bloody Wench wrote:
Even if they don't, what possible excuse do you have as a carrier pilot for not having them at 5?

As a strictly Mothership only forever pilot, then ok there may be a case for it.[


A super carrier pilot is pretty much always a "forever pilot" as the ship can't dock. I don't know anyone who uses their super pilot for anything other than supering.

Can you dock super carriers at capital ship maintenance bays in a POS?

If so the removal of the requirement for the capital ships sov up grade will allow them to be docked at any POS with a CSMA.

Never tested this, I just assumed since the CSMA had the same prerequisites as the CSAA supers could be docked in one.



No, supers can't dock in anything. The only way to store them when not in use is log off(safely) or another character (babysitter, super holding toon). Also super carriers can not use any drones other then fighters and fighter bombers. As said before the only skills that affect damage of them is the skills, fighter bombers and fighters and gallente carrier.
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