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So long eve-central.com, you will be missed!

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#21 - 2013-04-18 18:41:01 UTC
Venom13Games wrote:
iskflakes wrote:
Venom13Games wrote:
... there are two CCP Team Security members doing their best to make it clear it is not their intention to ban players/developers that use the cache-scraping for tools


Compare this statement to:
Quote:
... we may, in our sole discretion, deliver appropriate penalties for players that engage in cache scraping after 15 April 2013 (including temporary or permanent bans)


Perhaps CCP need a serious lesson in effective communication?


+1 to that, but then we've known that for years already...

That statement does not, however, directly state that everyone using cache scraping will be subject to a ban, but rather that CCP is free to decide whether or not what a specific person is using it for should be punishable by a ban, or whether their practice is acceptable, in which case the appropriate penalty is do nothing.

And since CCP can ban for any reason they feel is good and sufficient, well, the state-of-play hasn't really changed much, has it? Save taht now we have firm policy to consider when making our risk-benefit analysis.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-04-18 19:28:04 UTC
YES !

FINALLY ! :D

No more downloading of hundreds of items of whole regions ! :D
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#23 - 2013-04-18 19:41:49 UTC
EVE central didn't always use cache scraping. What it used to do is have people run a program in the background that would upload logs generated from pressing the button in the market window. They will simply go back to doing that now.


Only difference is that EVE-central results get slightly less reliable
CCP Peligro
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-04-18 19:44:17 UTC
I've addressed some of the concerns regarding CCPs policy on cache scraping here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2900665#post2900665

tl;dr: CCP confirms that we will only impose penalties on cache scraping if used in connection with other illegal activities in the game (i.e., botting). We will not take action against cache scraping for other uses.

CCP Peligro - Team Security
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#25 - 2013-04-18 19:52:47 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#26 - 2013-04-18 19:57:50 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Felicity Love wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Almost 100% of the player base will be banned.


Yes, but those of us that are left will finally enjoy EXCEPTIONAL server performance. I'm not seeing a downside to that. Blink




No more locked gates to Jita!!!!


And everything in Jita is 0.1 ISK more expensive P
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Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2013-04-18 20:06:47 UTC
isk you're such a god damn pessimist.
mkint
#28 - 2013-04-18 20:44:54 UTC
eve-central is harmful to the game. It provides an unfair advantage over people who don't use it. It homogenizes the markets, providing a tool to RMTers to maximize their profits.

/CCP logic

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-04-18 22:01:04 UTC
CCP Peligro wrote:
I've addressed some of the concerns regarding CCPs policy on cache scraping here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2900665#post2900665

tl;dr: CCP confirms that we will only impose penalties on cache scraping if used in connection with other illegal activities in the game (i.e., botting). We will not take action against cache scraping for other uses.


So is that a really round about way of saying that eve-central can continue to exist in its current form?

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#30 - 2013-04-18 22:24:50 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
CCP Peligro wrote:
I've addressed some of the concerns regarding CCPs policy on cache scraping here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2900665#post2900665

tl;dr: CCP confirms that we will only impose penalties on cache scraping if used in connection with other illegal activities in the game (i.e., botting). We will not take action against cache scraping for other uses.


So is that a really round about way of saying that eve-central can continue to exist in its current form?

...as long as you don't use if for botting P

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#31 - 2013-04-18 23:12:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Quotes without context are so useful for whipping the mob into a mindless frenzy eh?

No, CCP exercises their right to NOT shut down 3rd party software that cache scrapes for utility purposes, only those programs that use the info to hack, bot, or RMT will be penalized.

The OP could have pointed out that part as well, but that wouldn't have gotten the desired reaction. Smile

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