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RvB or FW?

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DroneKing Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-04-18 15:02:02 UTC
Which do you consider better pvp wise....Red Vs. Blue or Fraction Warfare? I'll been doing null stuff for a little while but I am just curious. In the future I might move on to one of these portions of space....seems less stressful than null and 0.0 politics.

DroneKing

Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-04-18 15:51:39 UTC
I tryed RvB for a month or so, then i joined FW and never left. (now 3+ years later)

My reasoning: high sec is not as much fun of a place to live and pvp as low sec.

FW did used to have bigger fights with bigger ships, but since inferno thats boiled down to pretty similar levels of scale and shiptypes as rvb, so not much of a reason now - but back when i joined fw it was a bigger factor.

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Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-04-18 16:11:48 UTC
Jonasan Mikio
Must Remove Snow Flakes
#4 - 2013-04-18 18:35:34 UTC
I like FW.... Its like a giant game of RISK, and if you really want to get involved it can be much more then just fleeting up and roaming around..


Plus FW you can use ECM ;)
Ginger Barbarella
#5 - 2013-04-18 18:50:14 UTC
FW is no-holds-barred, do whatever it takes to win or die. RvB has rules that say you can't do this and you can't do that.

You decide which is better. Lol

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

YoYoMommy
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#6 - 2013-04-18 22:49:48 UTC
Quote:
FW is no-holds-barred, do whatever it takes to win or die. RvB has rules that say you can't do this and you can't do that.


Is exactly why I like FW more.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2013-04-19 02:26:00 UTC
FW lets you make make isk while you PVP Cool
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-04-19 02:31:54 UTC
FW is for ISK grinding bro ;)

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Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#9 - 2013-04-19 04:05:57 UTC
DroneKing Aideron wrote:
Fraction Warfare?



Fraction War, where you get to divide by 0 and wear your pants on your head.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#10 - 2013-04-19 05:02:00 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
DroneKing Aideron wrote:
Fraction Warfare?



Fraction War, where you get to divide by 0 and wear your pants on your head.




Wear pants????


BLASPHEMY
Kristoffon Ellecon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-04-21 22:40:13 UTC
I don't know about FW but RvB is pretty boring, arranged fights are yawn...

The only thing going for RvB is the extremely low effort required -- never more than 2 jumps for a fight, and plenty of people willing to duel.
Jon Joringer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-04-22 03:25:45 UTC
I was in RvB for a few days before. To me, it seemed to be a lot of fighting in large groups (i.e.: listen to FC, press F1, and hope you're not the one the other guys call primary). Not fun, in my opinion.

FW is a lot more dynamic based on what I've experienced of it so far (partly because it takes place in lowsec).
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#13 - 2013-04-22 12:09:50 UTC
FW is more manly


Even better is just going low and shooting everything rather than worrying about factions..

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#14 - 2013-04-22 12:40:41 UTC
which faction is better to join now? I mean, better chance of getting a fight? I heard amarr are pretty active, is that true?
Ginger Barbarella
#15 - 2013-04-22 15:09:41 UTC
Kaanchana wrote:
which faction is better to join now? I mean, better chance of getting a fight? I heard amarr are pretty active, is that true?


No, it's not true. If you like blobby goodness, hit up the Gal or Cal militia. If you like station camping, join Amarr with your neutral alts and sit outside Rens and Hek all day.

Or, you can actually have fun and make some isk in Minmatar FW.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#16 - 2013-04-22 15:31:33 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Kaanchana wrote:
which faction is better to join now? I mean, better chance of getting a fight? I heard amarr are pretty active, is that true?


No, it's not true. If you like blobby goodness, hit up the Gal or Cal militia. If you like pvp with none of the LP farming to distract you join Amarr.

Or, you can actually fly t1 frigs with stabs and cloaks in Minmatar FW and be a parisite lp whore..


FYP.
Eliram Kahoudi
Big Fluffy Bunnies
#17 - 2013-04-22 16:20:05 UTC
gotta go with mra on this one ginger has no idea what she is talking about
Stay Thirsty
The Chosen Children
#18 - 2013-04-22 18:13:54 UTC
If you want PVP that is close to real battle, and a near constant fight, join FW. I actually enjoy FW far more than NUL because it tends to be a near constant fight without the 3 day ramp up and not near as much politics (although there are some politics).

RvB is fine for a newer toon that doesn't have a lot of skills, and wants to learn some of the mechanics of PVP. It gives you a good opportunity to setup your overview, listen to how a FC issues calls, etc. It is also a good spot for an aspiring FC to polish his skills without risking a whole fleet of shiny ships. I do wish ECM was allowed a bit more since that is a very important part of PVP (I think a good fleet is a proper balance of Logi, EWAR, and DPS).

In my opinion, RVB is kind of like an organized game of paintball or airsoft. FW is like guerilla warfare in some third world country with limited military structure. Nul is like developed countries sometimes going into battle or war (with all the diplomacy and politics going on that a war includes). Of course Nul also has the occassional rougue group of operatives or terrorists that can make things interesting depending on the region, so my example of Nul is more of a generalization.

As far as which militia to join, I can only give you my opinions as being in Gallente and Amarr (and subsequently flying against the other two).

Gallente/Caldari seemed to be a lot of large organizations on both sides. There tended to be more emphasis on who controlled what systems, and perhaps a little closer related to the actual mechanics of what FW was supposed to be about. It has been a few months since I was involved with G-C FW, so it may have changed. It is perhaps more "structured" of the two wars. I think if you choose this path, either of the sides are viable, with Gallente currently being perhaps the one where you can receive higher LP payouts if you choose to occassionaly Plex.

Amarr/Minmitar is what I am currently involved in daily. The doctrine on the two sides is VERY different. If you want to make LP and don't mind being labeled a LP whore, then Min is definitely the side to currently join. The amount of LP you can churn out is insane. Just expect to be flying stabbed/cloaky ships and doing a lot of button spinning. You can find some good fights flying for the Mins, but it is going to be mainly one-v-one where you run a high risk of getting a fleet warped in on top of you. The Amarr side could care less about LP, and is the better side if you have an alt to generate ISK and you simply want to kill as much stuff as possible. There are daily fleet roams/gate camps where you can join in with groups ranging in size of 5-50. You can still generate LP if you want to try, but the tiers are so unbalanced it is basically worthless.

And before anyone gets butt-hurt and wants to throw out example x, my above statements are generalizations. Of course you can be a pirate thorn in NUL, you can get into a fleet to pvp with Minmitar, and you can be a small two man corp in Cadari. As I said, this is meant to be "IN GENERAL". If you still feel the need to send out the trolls, I am sure someone will toss you a cookie.
Terhiss
United Mining and Hauling Inc
The Initiative.
#19 - 2013-04-23 17:17:10 UTC
In this time a noticeable part of Eve has its eyes set on FacWar. Perhaps because it has become one of the galaxy's primary Isk-factories, that can yeld 0.5 Bil in a day with a 3 day-old alternate character, perhaps because the Isk-factory has subsequently compelled the interest of prime-time Nullsec alliances, thus bringing more "plastic soldiers to the Risk map" and industrialists nontheless to fuel the war machine, or perhaps simply because Nullsec dwellers have no more neighbours to add as blue, thus ironically rendering the "Not blue: Shoot Immediately" to "Not Blue: Make it Blue".

RvB is somewhat like wanting to have an adrenaline rush and stay in your mother's reclining chair at the same time. You dont get the full experience.

T.

Amadeus3
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-04-23 20:29:26 UTC
RvB first if you're new. It's the shallow end of the pool. Join FW when you get bored/run-out-of-isk. FW is less contrived and you'll earn isk as you do it.

More kills / easier play - RvB

Better fights / more ISK - FW
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