Crime & Punishment

Fundamentally the applications of law where law is applied, stipulates that an action i.e robbery, assault, guarantees a reactive consequence to that action if caught. In example, a robbery is a risky endeavor which fundamentally guarantees an outcome of two (A) getting away with it (B) getting caught. No ifs or buts. Get caught equates to Jail time, getting away with it you're bound to get caught. Apply that to crimes committed in High-sec. Same action. sane consequences.

My point have been Risk vs Reward vs Consequences. High-sec as the name would suggest, is a place where an active and neutral Law is applied for the safety of its denizens. Trying to deviate away from that conceptual understanding does not make sense. If laws don't guarantee consequences what then?

Heres the issue with your theory,:that link is talking about bumping and Sabriz is talking about ganking, pay close attention to the letters to understand the fundamental difference between them, as far as I know tracking people down and repeatedly ganking them has never been a bannable offense.

So the carebear scum now want CCP to actively prevent people from attacking the in-game ships of people that verbally abuse their friends/corpmates/allies?

What next, a rule against shooting someone for putting a bounty on you? Bans for shooting the ships of people that provide resources to your in-game rivals?

In my opinion, you bullied that person. That is where I personally draw the line. Bullying is not the same as non-consensual PvP or even griefing. Those things I expect to be a part of Eve. Bullying I do not. You say nowhere is safe for that man; he evaded you all the way to NPC null and you followed him there. You warn others that they could suffer the same fate.

The bottom line is you'll use any excuse to justify your bullying of others. You claim you're on a crusade to remove bots and that you do this by bumping them. This is not the case though. You can be in a system and a person can outright talk to you in local, clearly demonstrating they're not a bot, and you'll still harass them and bump them and gank them if they do not comply with your demands to bow down to your sacred leader, follow your rules, and post something in their bio to help advertise your cause.

I assume you're an adult, yet you go around calling another adult your saviour...in a video game. All I can do is shake my head. I'm not advocating that highsec be nerfed. I'm fairly happy with it the way it is. There is more whining from people like you than there will ever be from the so-called carebears of Eve.

That said, this is a game I care about. I enjoy it here, and I'd like to see it last another ten years. And your actions have consequences. When you bully someone, they don't stick around to be bullied, as that guy clearly demonstrated to you. If you keep bullying him, he'll just leave...and I don't accept the notion that he should have to because he isn't playing the game the way you want him to.

Why don't you just pick a fight with someone who can fight back? It's not like there is a shortage of them around here.

Thats comical, its now bullying to track down players and gank them.

You're over-simplifying this individual's actions, but I won't waste the time explaining it to you in detail. I'll simply say the progression of events is relevant.

We've all gone through high school, so we know a bully when we see one. If you need a refresher though, a bully is someone who picks on and attacks those that are weaker than himself because he's too afraid to take on someone his own size. Dressing it up and making it sound "noble" is (apparently) the only way one can justify to themselves they're not bullies, when in reality that's exactly what they are.

I consider these people worse than carebears. They're beyond risk-averse. They blow up throwaway ships and advocate awoxing as (apparently) the only legitimate methods of killing miners (I mean bots). There is no challenge in this. There is no risk. They follow a few simple steps to train a throwaway character for the sole purpose of bullying players, all the while making it sound like they're doing God's work (rolls eyes).

Please, tell us about how shooting unfit battleships from the seat of your T1 vindicator in Jita is the epitome of elite pvp.

The video link was relevant to her response. And awesome.

And of course I am keeping this CODE thread active.

Worked, didn't it?

Fair enough, you don't want to deal in opinions, only cold hard facts. That seems reasonable.



Oops, you accidentally made an argument which was purely opinion here, instead of sticking to facts. I'm sure this was just a one-time mistake, surely you wouldn't intentionally be so hypocritical?