Science & Industry

A solo miners will not break more than 12-14 mill isk per hour in High Sec. If you have multiple mining vessels and Orca support you might be better. Ultimately mining is for people who enjoy doing industry or making passive income. Mission running and incursions will always be more profitable. Mining literally has to be your thing if you want to do it. It you are doing it to get rich, you might want to pick a new line of work.

You have to search. Items are always profitable. What is hard to find just what they are. And be ready to move with the market.

A link that may help you:

http://www.eve-cost.eu/calculator

You can set it to count the cost of renting slots, market rates. The only ones it does not cost that adding this is your time and logistics.

Example: Damage Control I have 64% profit. Cost of production of 8 488.43 ISK and sale value in 14,000.00

With all your skills maxed and using T2 strips with T2 crystals you can make about 17 mil/hr. That is mining 5, astrogeology 5, mining upgrades 4, ore specific skills to 4 for T2 crystals and a few other skills.

Add a maxed ORCA boost to that and you will make 20-25 mil with your retriever. Mining is only good isk when done in a fleet. Solo with barely adequate skills will be much lower. ICE mining is even far lower than ore mining.

When you hear someone saying they make 25-30M/hr mining, that is a maxed out HULK with full ORCA boost, not a solo retriever.

Manufacturing is the same thing, profits are only good once you have maxed skills. you may find a few things you can make isk on at lower skills but most items traded in jita have very small margins with max skills. With lower skills you will often not make a profit.

Production Efficiency, mass production, and advanced mass production are among the first skills you will need to train to be a successful manufacturer. At trade hubs many items will not be profitable unless you have production efficiency trained to 5.

ME and PE levels are stats on a BPO. ME affects waste on the BPO it self. PE affects how long a run takes to manufacture. All T1 BPO's start out with these at 0 which gives a base waste of 10%. No skill you train affects the ME or PE level of the BPO. To increase these stats they must be researched which requires additional skills trained. The needed skills for research change from BPO to BPO. Only BPO(Blue Print Originals) can be researched. BPC (Blue Print Copies) are made from BPO's and will have the same ME and PE as the BPO they were copied from. BPC's can not be researched so if you are building from BPC's make sure to buy the best ME/PE level BPC you can. But be careful not to spend so much you can not make it at a profit.

Having low production efficiency skills will increase the base waste from the ME base or the BP. For example if you have 10% waste from a low PE level and use a BPO with ME 0 (10% waste) you will basically have 20% wasted materials on your manufacturing. where a skilled manufacturer with Production Efficiency 5 (0 skill based waste) and used a researched BPO with ME 100 (0.1% waste) will have a total of 0.1% wasted materials. So if the skilled manufacturer is making 10% profit at 0.1% waste, you will have about a 10% loss at 20% waste.

ammo and mining crystals are always safe bets to make, ammo just match the most common stuff is used in your area. Mining crystals will be easier to tell how much you can sell/how quickly you can move them as you will be seeing how many people are mining in your area.

Thanks everyone for the replies.

Still training Indy skills and was having a look what sells and doesnt. Only finding things that i can make about 500k profit from.

It's stressing me out so might just keep skills training and keep looking for advice but may need to find someone who can i give me an example of what they sell, buying items, production costs etc see how that whole procedure goes then might start indy work in a week or two but atm, grasping it is just too much of a climb for me.

Thanks all

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500k profit in what timeframe? Most good items hover around 500k/hour profit, there are better and worse but thats the rough middleground for "basic industry".

500k/hour per line , 10 lines 20sh hours day. Thats 100M day.

Use the Isk Per Hour program or other sources to find the good items, with T1 production you wont get this high numbers but there is ISK to be made. Its super important to have manuf efficiency at 5 and some research on the BPOs otherwise you cant make profit.

Problem with tech1 production is that "anyone" can build T1 modules, so the competition is high and margins are low. It gets much better when you move into T2 items and such. I think i did cap boosters when i started, they had high profitmargins, nice isk but they are really cumbersome to move around luckily there was one guy i could piggyback in his freighter runs.

Also some dronemodules were nice while ago as were sentry and logistics drones. These modules dont really have npc droppable meta items so people either use T1 or T2, and many of these need lots skills for the T2 so there is demand for T1 stuff.

I do 99% of my buys and sales at Jita, since the volume is there. Smaller local hubs are just fine for small scale indusrialist, its very easy to expand after you get used to it anyway. You can try local buy orders near your production hub for cheap ore, you ofc need skills and standings to refine it for maximum benefit.