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Why don't gankers and war deccers just go to low/null/wh space????
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Josef Djugashvilis
#141 - 2013-04-15 06:54:02 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
When the targets who have far too much isk on their ships and no tank fitted go into low sec we will follow.


Yet when folk do fit a tank, you then whinge that it costs too much to gank them.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#142 - 2013-04-15 06:55:29 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Instead of picking on people in highsec who can't fight back and don't want to PVP?

I mean, the mining barges, PVE fit ships, etc that get blown up in low/null/wh space aren't anywhere as near as weak and defenseless as the mining barges and PVE ships in highsec, and they totally wanted me to drop a sb gang on them and kill their ship and pod, so it's ok if I gank them in low/null/wh space, but in highsec? Wow thats just griefing basically!


In case you didn't get it, sarcasm. I'm saying this "go to low/null/wh to pvp" line is stupid.


Poor quality trolling.

Please stop.

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#143 - 2013-04-15 07:02:11 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:

Poor quality trolling.

Please stop.

cannot agree here: thread is already on 8th page, Malkanis already felt for OPs trolling, Tippia, goons are here.

Let's continueCool

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Sishen Gzi
Hellion Support Services
#144 - 2013-04-15 07:18:52 UTC
this thread makes me want to suicide gank players in hi sec
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#145 - 2013-04-15 07:22:02 UTC
I just did a null/low sec roam recently. it's no wonder they come up to high sec, guys in low/null are damn hard to catch and if you get close to catching one he/she docks up. You hear about all this risk vs reward talk, wouldn't you forgo a life in null/low to wardeck juicy industrial corp for their pretty loots rather than having to painstakingly hunt down a pilot that even if you caught would at best just have a few t2 mods drop?

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pussnheels
Viziam
#146 - 2013-04-15 07:28:09 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Instead of picking on people in highsec who can't fight back and don't want to PVP?

I mean, the mining barges, PVE fit ships, etc that get blown up in low/null/wh space aren't anywhere as near as weak and defenseless as the mining barges and PVE ships in highsec, and they totally wanted me to drop a sb gang on them and kill their ship and pod, so it's ok if I gank them in low/null/wh space, but in highsec? Wow thats just griefing basically!


In case you didn't get it, sarcasm. I'm saying this "go to low/null/wh to pvp" line is stupid.

because people actually shoot back
can you imagine that when you try to gank someone in low sec and they actually shoot back where is CCP taking this game I demand that CCP nerf low sec so i can grief low sec and nullsec dwwellers aswell

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culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#147 - 2013-04-15 07:29:24 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Instead of picking on people in highsec who can't fight back and don't want to PVP?

I mean, the mining barges, PVE fit ships, etc that get blown up in low/null/wh space aren't anywhere as near as weak and defenseless as the mining barges and PVE ships in highsec, and they totally wanted me to drop a sb gang on them and kill their ship and pod, so it's ok if I gank them in low/null/wh space, but in highsec? Wow thats just griefing basically!


In case you didn't get it, sarcasm. I'm saying this "go to low/null/wh to pvp" line is stupid.

because people actually shoot back
can you imagine that when you try to gank someone in low sec and they actually shoot back where is CCP taking this game I demand that CCP nerf low sec so i can grief low sec and nullsec dwwellers aswell


By shooting back do you mean lighting the cyno?

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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#148 - 2013-04-15 07:29:33 UTC
So to summarise, reasons to PVP (ganks, wardecs, whatever) in highsec:
There is not a single reason not to (highsec is and always has been a PVP area. All areas of EVE are PVP areas)
Abundance of targets
No capital warfare
Less blobby
Targets are more likely to be packed with bling
The tears are twice as delicious

Reasons why carebears think everyone who wants to PVP should go to low/null/wh space:
They feel that they shouldn't have to PVP if they don't want to
The feel that highsec is supposed to be a PVP free zone
They do not understand the nature or mechanics of the game

Simple :)
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#149 - 2013-04-15 07:36:52 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:

Yet when folk do fit a tank, you then whinge that it costs too much to gank them.


Close. We're bothered when CCP fits the tank for them, since they refuse to.

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StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#150 - 2013-04-15 07:46:22 UTC  |  Edited by: StoneCold
I like it how most (it seems) think we´re all looking for good fightes o_O

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culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#151 - 2013-04-15 07:51:52 UTC
StoneCold wrote:
I like it how most (it seems) think we´re all looking for good fightes o_O

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It would be easier to just go to rancer or so in that case.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#152 - 2013-04-15 08:07:15 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
When the targets who have far too much isk on their ships and no tank fitted go into low sec we will follow.


Yet when folk do fit a tank, you then whinge that it costs too much to gank them.


Wrong.

I am assuming you are mistaking my complaints about the macks base tank which is causing balance issues with the other exhumers.
Josef Djugashvilis
#153 - 2013-04-15 08:11:49 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:

Yet when folk do fit a tank, you then whinge that it costs too much to gank them.


Close. We're bothered when CCP fits the tank for them, since they refuse to.


So, you will opposed to CCP gifting null-sec better production facilities, as some null-sec folk think the present arrangement is just too much like hard work for them.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#154 - 2013-04-15 08:15:12 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
When the targets who have far too much isk on their ships and no tank fitted go into low sec we will follow.


Yet when folk do fit a tank, you then whinge that it costs too much to gank them.


Wrong.

I am assuming you are mistaking my complaints about the macks base tank which is causing balance issues with the other exhumers.


I look forward to CCP making the other exhumers tougher in line with the Mackinaw to keep the balance right.Smile

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#155 - 2013-04-15 08:16:51 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:


So, you will opposed to CCP gifting null-sec better production facilities, as some null-sec folk think the present arrangement is just too much like hard work for them.


It is impossible to compete with high sec industry. It is entirely possible to tank a barge to be unprofitable to gank.
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#156 - 2013-04-15 08:17:13 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
When the targets who have far too much isk on their ships and no tank fitted go into low sec we will follow.


Yet when folk do fit a tank, you then whinge that it costs too much to gank them.


Wrong.

I am assuming you are mistaking my complaints about the macks base tank which is causing balance issues with the other exhumers.


I look forward to CCP making the other exhumers tougher in line with the Mackinaw to keep the balance right.Smile


God forbid putting a tank on your mining vessel right?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#157 - 2013-04-15 08:17:53 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:


I look forward to CCP making the other exhumers tougher in line with the Mackinaw to keep the balance right.Smile


CCP are nerfing the macks tank this summer.
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#158 - 2013-04-15 08:18:33 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Instead of picking on people in highsec who can't fight back and don't want to PVP?

I mean, the mining barges, PVE fit ships, etc that get blown up in low/null/wh space aren't anywhere as near as weak and defenseless as the mining barges and PVE ships in highsec, and they totally wanted me to drop a sb gang on them and kill their ship and pod, so it's ok if I gank them in low/null/wh space, but in highsec? Wow thats just griefing basically!


In case you didn't get it, sarcasm. I'm saying this "go to low/null/wh to pvp" line is stupid.


The honest answer is that it's because they are cowards. They'd get their arses handed to them in Low/Null, so they stay in High where they can have easy victories and feel like men. They will dress it up any number of ways, but that's the reality.

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culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#159 - 2013-04-15 08:22:09 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Instead of picking on people in highsec who can't fight back and don't want to PVP?

I mean, the mining barges, PVE fit ships, etc that get blown up in low/null/wh space aren't anywhere as near as weak and defenseless as the mining barges and PVE ships in highsec, and they totally wanted me to drop a sb gang on them and kill their ship and pod, so it's ok if I gank them in low/null/wh space, but in highsec? Wow thats just griefing basically!


In case you didn't get it, sarcasm. I'm saying this "go to low/null/wh to pvp" line is stupid.


The honest answer is that it's because they are cowards. They'd get their arses handed to them in Low/Null, so they stay in High where they can have easy victories and feel like men. They will dress it up any number of ways, but that's the reality.


god forbid you actually could fight thoes "noobs", which is what your corp should do.
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Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#160 - 2013-04-15 08:28:34 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
....It is impossible to compete with high sec industry. It is entirely possible to tank a barge to be unprofitable to gank.

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