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Stealth Bomber as a PVE boat

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Steven Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-04-11 16:02:40 UTC
Cameron Zero wrote:
Steven Koskanaiken wrote:
Ovv Topik wrote:
Not very good income, but effective Sec Status repair.



Confirming that SB and a 15 min loop is a great way to grind sec status.



Confirming that ratting like this is also mind-numblingly boring.


I never did it for the thrills...but it was nice to be able to enter high sec agai n with an alt after harvesting some delicious tears.
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-04-11 16:29:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Klymer
Sundiata Arran wrote:
Taking your advice, I'll have to use the COVOPS/bomber skills strictly for PVP. Which is the best Minmatar cruiser for PVE?



Rupture is the usually the go to ship for PVE, it has good firepower thanks to 4 well bonused guns and can field a full flight of drones. You also have a good selection of medium and low slots so you can either shield or armor tank it. I prefer a shield tank as that frees up the lows for damage mods. Here's a simple T1 fit that works well in Angel space. Use the AB to keep range so the arty can do it's thing and if something gets close sick the drones on them. This fit is probably a bit on the overtanked side with a pair of spr's in the lows, you can switch them out for more damage mods depending on how comfortable you are with manually flying the ship and avoiding incoming fire. Also you should go with the highest meta level modules you can afford until you can fit T2, I used the plain T1 versions here for simplicity. The skills for this lend themselves well to flying a Hurricane when your ready to move up.

[Rupture, LSE Rupture]

Gyrostabilizer I
Gyrostabilizer I
Shield Power Relay I
Shield Power Relay I
Tracking Enhancer I

Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Limited Explosive Deflection Field I
Tracking Computer I, Tracking Speed Script
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I

650mm Artillery Cannon I, Fusion M
650mm Artillery Cannon I, Fusion M
650mm Artillery Cannon I, Fusion M
650mm Artillery Cannon I, Fusion M
Salvager I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Warrior I x6


Oh and since you mention flying the bomber that means you have missiles skills so you could also use the Bellicose. This works well for 1s and 2s, again keep range with AB and let the missiles do their thing, drones for anything that manages to get close. T1 mods until you can fit T2 and the skills transfer up to the Cyclone and eventually the Typhoon. You can also fit heavy missiles to this ship for a bit of extra punch when needed.

[Bellicose, RLML]

Ballistic Control System I
Ballistic Control System I
Ballistic Control System I
Ballistic Control System I

Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Peripheral Weapon Navigation Diameter
Peripheral Weapon Navigation Diameter
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I

Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Nova Light Missile
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Nova Light Missile
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Nova Light Missile
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Nova Light Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Warrior I x5

This ship works well for helping out people running level 4s thanks to the target painter bonus and the flexibility of using light or heavy launchers. Warp in after the primary ship, pull some range and start painting targets and killing off the small stuff then work your way up.
Kharaxus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-04-14 01:16:46 UTC
Sundiata Arran wrote:


I want to be a scout in PVP small gangs.

I want to make my PVE isk as an explorer.

Is a stealth bomber viable for clearing NPC pirate rats at sites?

I think I want to max out my skills at the frigate/destroyer level before moving on.


#1 - A SB is a very expensive scout. You can just as easily put a cloak on a Slasher and stick it somewhere. If you're going to fly a gate ahead of fleet, and stay on the move, no cloak at all.

#2 - Im a noob when it comes to PVE ISK compared to other people - but I have made enough money doing it to see the rewards. However, an expensive ship isn't going to do it for you. So far the best loot I have found has been in low sec - the cheapest solution is going to be the best one for the most reward.

#3 - In FW I used a SB for doing missions and it was great. Only time I lost my Hound was when I was stupid, for stupid reasons. Basic fundamentals learned while flying around in low sec is all it takes to keep your ship. Other people have pointed out that a SB works great for ratting - and they're right. You need to fit the ship for maximum range and DPS. Then pick/plan your battles carefully.

#4 - Maxing skill to fly frigs/dessie is kind of the last thing you do before "moving on". At the very least because their cargo-holds are too small for all the loot you will haul away. There's a ton of stuff to "discover" in PVE/Exploration. Having drones are very handy. There's a lot of little bits and pieces that will tweak your elusive "final" decision. So IMO start with cruiser, preferably a Battlecruiser for PVE/Exploration.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-04-14 02:06:50 UTC
Kharaxus wrote:
Sundiata Arran wrote:


I want to be a scout in PVP small gangs.

I want to make my PVE isk as an explorer.

Is a stealth bomber viable for clearing NPC pirate rats at sites?

I think I want to max out my skills at the frigate/destroyer level before moving on.


#1 - A SB is a very expensive scout. You can just as easily put a cloak on a Slasher and stick it somewhere. If you're going to fly a gate ahead of fleet, and stay on the move, no cloak at all.


Yet. Being the cloaky guy can mean you can give intel undetected.
You can provide warp ins without the enemy knowing you are behind them for it
You are more likely to live a bit longer if you can warp around cloaked. Specially in null when you have pre-made tacticals around gates etc to negate bubbles.
You are much more mobile while cloaked (both in subwarp speed as in moving from system to system while remaining undetected).

And a stealth bomber is not very expensive. They ain't cheap, but to call them very expensive is the other end.

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