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UI Scaling

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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2011-10-31 22:50:46 UTC
UI Scaling is still in progress but it would be great to get some feedback on it or if you notice any issues please post here Smile

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Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#2 - 2011-10-31 23:14:13 UTC
UI scaling is coming for winter?

Where I am.

EmmerTemp
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-10-31 23:45:15 UTC
Well...
so far, standard UI font seems way to big...
but when you change it to smaller, it gets allmost unreadable (is that a word?)
chats are kinda oke with small UI, but rightclick in space text etc is to small/no smooth text
Oberine Noriepa
#4 - 2011-10-31 23:47:45 UTC
Yeah, the lowest percentage for UI scaling makes the font too small and nigh unreadable.

CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#5 - 2011-10-31 23:50:41 UTC
yeah the smaller scaling was mostly for people who have low resolution monitors and want to fit more windows on their screens when they're in fleet fights or other occasions where they might want to fit many windows

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EmmerTemp
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-10-31 23:52:22 UTC  |  Edited by: EmmerTemp
Might be True...

But I run an 1920 resolution, and with the standard UI the text (and textboxes) are way to big.
You lose total overview on screen.. with smaller UI the overview (overview on screen that is, not battle overview :D) is oke with 1920, but as said text unreadable
Blue Harrier
#7 - 2011-10-31 23:53:21 UTC
As the labels mean nothing at the moment I can give you the following feedback and remember I’m an OAP so eyesight may be a bit wanting lol.

Running a 24” screen at 1920 * 1200

At the first setting the text is really small in just about any situation but still manages to overlap and scrunch up in the [Esc] menu when viewed from the log in screen. The left side menus are the worst.

When logged in I changed it to the second label and this made the text much more readable but it also caused the text labels on some icons in the station view window to run out of space. For instance I have a container called ‘Ship Fittings High Slot’ and the icon displays ‘Ship Fittings’ and nothing else.

It seems the step up in size makes the small text the correct size but some text that is slightly larger becomes to large for the space provided. It looks like some text is displayed in a sort of fixed width and some in proportional text.

Otherwise not bad.

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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#8 - 2011-10-31 23:54:16 UTC
there's an option in the overview settings to use smaller font in the overview (was added after feedback in the font issues thread)

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EmmerTemp
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-10-31 23:56:04 UTC
With "Overview" I kinda mean, the overview of text in my windows (chat windows etc)
With standard UI only a few lines of text fit in a chatwindow...
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2011-10-31 23:56:42 UTC
Blue Harrier wrote:
As the labels mean nothing at the moment I can give you the following feedback and remember I’m an OAP so eyesight may be a bit wanting lol.

Running a 24” screen at 1920 * 1200

At the first setting the text is really small in just about any situation but still manages to overlap and scrunch up in the [Esc] menu when viewed from the log in screen. The left side menus are the worst.

When logged in I changed it to the second label and this made the text much more readable but it also caused the text labels on some icons in the station view window to run out of space. For instance I have a container called ‘Ship Fittings High Slot’ and the icon displays ‘Ship Fittings’ and nothing else.

It seems the step up in size makes the small text the correct size but some text that is slightly larger becomes to large for the space provided. It looks like some text is displayed in a sort of fixed width and some in proportional text.

Otherwise not bad.


the options are (depending on your resolution)
90%
100%
110%
125%
150%

but if you could provide screenshots with the bugs you find, it would be much appreciated Smile

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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#11 - 2011-10-31 23:57:06 UTC
EmmerTemp wrote:
With "Overview" I kinda mean, the overview of text in my windows (chat windows etc)
With standard UI only a few lines of text fit in a chatwindow...


oh, sorry Big smile

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#12 - 2011-10-31 23:59:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
FPS moniter line does not scale down correctly line appers outside the box.
UI scaling from 90% to 100 broke rendering for me when I tryed to undock. redocking did not fix it. was seated at the time.
Please add the small text option to the combat log please
90% really pushes the font together.

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Hungry Eyes
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2011-11-01 00:43:02 UTC
is there a new UI in the works? everything else is simply moot.
Jasperexty
Apple Industries Inc.
#14 - 2011-11-01 01:56:49 UTC
well you should make it so that you can have the option of changing the UI to your personal preferance. Some people like it some like the one before
Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-11-01 04:15:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Grideris
The Power/CPU Bars in the fitting window don't re-render at proper scale if you change to a different scale. Closing then opening the window does not reset them either. If you can't replicate it, try changing scale with the fitting window already open.

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http://eve-files.com/dl/248887

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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#16 - 2011-11-01 11:51:53 UTC
Grideris wrote:
The Power/CPU Bars in the fitting window don't re-render at proper scale if you change to a different scale. Closing then opening the window does not reset them either. If you can't replicate it, try changing scale with the fitting window already open.

http://eve-files.com/dl/248886

http://eve-files.com/dl/248887


thanks! this has now been fixed Smile

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Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-11-01 11:56:44 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Grideris wrote:
The Power/CPU Bars in the fitting window don't re-render at proper scale if you change to a different scale. Closing then opening the window does not reset them either. If you can't replicate it, try changing scale with the fitting window already open.

http://eve-files.com/dl/248886

http://eve-files.com/dl/248887


thanks! this has now been fixed Smile


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Logan LaMort
Screaming Hayabusa
#18 - 2011-11-01 12:51:52 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
there's an option in the overview settings to use smaller font in the overview (was added after feedback in the font issues thread)


I just noticed that now, very nice! That option eliminated my only issue with the new font Big smile
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-11-01 16:00:40 UTC
1. Can I get the "expanded font width" back please? I'm used to reading fonts with a "normal width" other than this weird narrowness of EVE fonts.

2. The font needs to be improved to scale better at smaller font sizes...

3. The font is jagged, or having "disappeared" corners where the pixels at the corners appear to be too faint and makes it look like it has a broken line instead of a curve (I can't explain it well)
Velarra
#20 - 2011-11-01 16:40:22 UTC
It's great that substantial UI text blocks are finally readable. It would be nice if it was slightly more granular, - user specified % or similar in order to customize for a player's specific screen & resolution.


Small issue with Agent portrait with large scaling option selected:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/oVbGoGjjP6QyeWFDd_qTGrp7VqXbnNibZJORT5pcuIo?feat=directlink
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