EVE General Discussion

really? this again. lets see mission returns are static, but inflation has halved the value of isk. can we first market index mission rewards, then discuss the risk? L5s are already in low-sec and I am betting the running has dropped like a stone since the patch a couple of years back.

players will migrate to Incursion or blitz L3 or mining for isk. if you are really this bored OP, camp an L5 agent and good luck.

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Sadly the idea is half baked at best and solve's little with content in Low Sec let alone increases traffic. All you would do is force High Sec players to do level three's and keep grinding away aimlessly in the "safety" of High Sec. You see already people are bitching and moaning about "baww Pirates" simply because there's an element to this game in which risk used to be a very real factor in each decision made.

Sure there is the occasional suicide gank in High Sec but generally speaking a self aware player who watches local will generally be aware of the attackers. Null Sec is another safe haven now with vast coalitions spread from one corner of Eve to the next under the guise of something unique giving their members undisturbed means to rat or do other pve elements of the game.

Simply put there is no definitive reason or rather incentive for pve players to go to Low Sec at all. Not when you have two options to generate vast amounts of isk compared to the paltry scraps in low unless you grind standing for lvl 5 agents and speed run in a Carrier.

There are several real problems with why traffic in low is comprised of 95% pvp and such a small number of pve players. Here is just a few examples.

1. Isk generated in Low Sec is far less than just running a level 4 in High Sec in relative safety compared to Low.

2. Null sec offers much greater reward and the safety of a Coalition.

3. Low Sec is comprised mainly of Pirates, Faction Warfare, etc so to a pve player they want no reason to deal with these potential threats.

4. Any affront to pve players which inadvertently puts them at risk to such elements of gameplay is decried as unfair and unjust therefore nothing changes.

So really the stubbornness of these players creates the conundrum of what you have today in which vast Coalitions blue each others for relative safety and isk printing and those who really are introverted and want just a pve game just stay in High Sec. I personally wouldn't have any issue except that the quality of this game suffers due to the stubbornness of those who refuse to accept risk.

You cannot force risk upon these players because you will get the same tired bitchy responses day in and day out. Just like how I'm called every name in the book for suicide ganking some afk miner's Hulk and I'm thought of as the Devil because this person wants nothing to do with the risk mechanic and only wants to AFK mine.

Sadly the only way Low Sec will change is if CCP puts something back into the region that drives people enough to go there. make Anom's profitable as well as the nerfed Drone Sites. Give Low Sec a certain mineral that can only be mined there that is part of T2 production or something.

it forces players to go into these regions for the reward. They weigh the risk and see the reward is greater. Without any reward there is no creation of risk, combat, population etc. These are just some simple steps that need to be taken.

Will they? I've been around since 2004 and I can tell you I'm not holding my breath anytime soon especially with no one in the current CSM directly supporting our gameplay.

Define "without breaking". Imo, missions need a major overhaul in the first place, so a player would be encouraged to bring warp scrams, neuts, ewar, different fits to different missions. They should have more in common with exploration too, for instance breaking into an enemy information center and extracting vital data or smuggling an escaped slave past an amarr blockade or similar.

While we're at it just delete high sec entirely. That should solve YOUR needs and desires................. wrong. If that does happen the unsubscribe button isn't too hard to find.

and what's your overwhelmingly colossal contribution to the game? please, enlighten me.

impressive, you used all those words to say "nothing"

You really take these forums way too seriously if you didn't at least chuckle. Figures. Everyone's got a stick up their A^%.....

But you asked what do I personally contribute? What have I done to leave my mark upon the vastness of time and space?

Why I'm the Queen of the Seven Space Lanes my friend. My opponents cry aloud and tremble at the sight of my Hello Kitty painted Vindicator streaking across the stars blaring Cher as round after round of pulsing hot Void collides into their meaty insides spit roasting them and spilling their guts into the vacuum of space.

I'm the Terror of Low Sec. The demolisher of Hulks, the Baron of Booty. The Reaper of pods and Bane of all who fly. A strong Solar Wind is always to my back and the glare of dying stars shimmers across my gleaming hull as with devilish grin and malicious lust I descend upon my prey like the sheers to a calf at slaughter.

I'm the Wanderer, the Hunter, and the silent Nomad. I answer to no one, heed no call, seek no ally except those who deal in the Devil's Trade of ransom and pillage. I seek no faltering Alliance of fools and weak pitiable wretches whom cling to one another like leper's diseased and my guns are the cure.

I only answer to the Jolly Rodger. So Hoist The Colors. For I am a Pirate and Satan's Handmade.

What is my contribution to Eve? To ensure Chaos and Terror reign supreme in a universe gone soft. To sow seeds of anger and strife at every turn. To laugh at my enemies suffering even as I profit from their misfortune and ill gotten luck. I'm a wretch and love every second of it.


Better?

Obviously you have no rebuttal because you are just trying to be a prick about what flavor best serves peoples tastes in this game. The point obviously is to HAVE FUN. Personally I can't understand how people in this game can shoot rocks and rats for hours on end. I'd rather just scam with one of my alts or ransom off a HS pipe gate.

It's all rather simple and quite enjoyable! Pity CCP doesn't really promote Piracy as a valid profession especially toward younger players.

Oh okay. I was trolling you the whole time and only kidding hurr durr!! Jesus Christ....

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Saved the thread, which consists mostly of bears flinging the same non-arguments they learned in NPC corp chats ad nauseaum.