EVE General Discussion

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Spent hundreds on cards, sold them for thousands, bought a rare car. Later, sold the car for more than I paid for it after getting good use out of it. I got good use out of the cards too - won a few prizes in small tournaments.

Somehow I don't see collecting database records in a game world on the same level. If the collectors items had inherent value, like the tournament prize ships or the Guardian Vexor, then you've got something worth isk. Collecting Zephyrs and Primae and the like simply because there aren't a lot of them, despite the fact that they're junk, to me, is silly.

Most collectors items are gimmicks. Words like "special edition" and "limited edition" should be signals that someone is after your money or just wants to make you feel special. Look for real value, not marketing buzzwords.

Anyone want to buy an Echelon?


Didn't think so.

I agree, it really annoys me when "limited edition" ships get handed out wholesale. To anyone who claims rare ship collectors need to accept risk too, I put this to you; regular market traders do their thing based on speculation from info released PRIOR to upcoming patches, in pvp we get to look at upcoming patch data then make choices as to which skills to invest in and which ships are going to be hot. But here, ccp, with absolutely no notice, **** collectors out of billions. That's not risk/reward. Today collectors logged on to find several inches of CCP lodged in their hole.

I still remember a time when we were supposed to be able to skin our own ships and CCP hadn't decided to waste all the ship skins for special edition money grabs.

I'm not gonna say this is a ton of RL money involved or anything.......

But normally a monthly sub costs $14.95 or a $20 PLEX value. I spent $26.00 for a 30 day GTC from a 3rd Party company, which I never otherwise would have used, just expressly to get the Intaki Syndicate Catalyst.

Now they are just being handed out like candy for Buddy Subscriptions.

It's not the end of the world or anything, but it sure will stop me from trusting anything CCP says is limited edition from now on, especially with RL currency involved.

Your avatar won't stop looking at my groin.

+1

There are certain classes of limited edition ships that are PROMISED to have a certain run. Tournament ships for example.

Otherwise I think CCP should be free to do additional promotions or what have you at their will.

Collectors are not entitled to have CCP not reuse ships they have not promised to never use again.

You are taking your chances speculating on their value.

Do you include Gnosis, Etana, Echelon , Zephyr , or the pirate noobships?

Gnosis - Isn't this just a scaled up version of an asset already in NPC use?

Etana - Existing hull, with V3 it seems creating new variants for ship skins became easier (or so I was led to believe by the blog about it) so I'd still qualify this as reduced visual effort. The balance effort to make it desirable from a stat perspective on the other hand was justified by it's place as an earned reward in the AT.

Echelon/Zephyr - They exemplify the "exceptionally weak" portion, to the point that I'd have a hard time thinking that there was any long period of time balancing them, but I will concede they required new art assets. You could also include the Primae in this catagory as it was created before the noctis and at the time doesn't seem it was slated to have another ship created for wider use based off the hull.

Pirate noob ships - All weak variants of existing assets, which aer actually the best example of my point when viewed as a whole

And Market traders are left holding the bag when the info comes out on SISI and they're left holding the item long when they should be short. Just because they take their bath a few days/weeks before patch day doesn't mean they don't smell just as fresh.

Besides, if you're just collecting the things, why do you care how many other people are also able to collect them? I mean, I'd understand caring if you were trying to resell them for a profit, but then you run into the bus of "Speculators get given baths by CCP all the time."

They aren't exactly 'limited edition' if they are a player referral reward. They can even be created inifinitely through the creation of new accounts and subscriptions. Does this put a real dollar value on them? Sure. But that doesn't make them limited edition, simply because they cost a different form of currency. Someone who wanted to put enough money into it, could acquire tens of thousands of them a week. This is simply not the case for a limited edition ship.

CCP, thankyou for making the destroyer models essentially a micro-transaction reward. (Create other email address, send referral to it, use other email to create eve account with referall, accept, claim destroyer pack as referral reward). We were all SO worried you weren't going to try to sneak in more micro-transactions into eve, after the failure of the decade that was Aurum in eve.