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...but what about the Quafe Catalyst?

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#1 - 2013-03-25 20:26:33 UTC
I just noticed some PAX pirate rookie ships on the market @ Jita 4-4 (pretty cool btw!) and it got me wondering about the Quafe Catalyst... still not in any player hands! What's the holdup, CCP? Big smile

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2013-03-25 20:28:11 UTC
Quafe Catalyst? yuck.

Intaki Catalyst..... blue sexyness.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#3 - 2013-03-25 20:33:37 UTC
They have difficulties coding the Quafe Blaster that uses Quafe and its variants as ammunition.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#4 - 2013-03-25 21:13:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Carbonation Cannon.

(Pop pop, fizz fizz)

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Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-03-25 22:46:29 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Carbonation Cannon.

(Pop pop, fizz fizz)
Oh, what a relief it is.

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 
Grigori Annunaki
#6 - 2013-03-25 22:51:21 UTC
I would happily murder all of you for a purple jewel-toned Catalyst.
CCP Nadir
C C P
C C P Alliance
#7 - 2013-04-11 15:54:56 UTC
Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program.

The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following,


  • Quafe Catalyst
  • Intaki Catalyst
  • Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst
  • Aliastra Catalyst
  • Interbus Catalyst
  • Catalyst


Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#8 - 2013-04-11 16:14:29 UTC
CCP Nadir wrote:
Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program.

The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following,


  • Quafe Catalyst
  • Intaki Catalyst
  • Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst
  • Aliastra Catalyst
  • Interbus Catalyst
  • Catalyst




Can we get a response as to why you bastards keep making entirely new ships out of these skins instead of letting us have a system that allows for the customization of an existing ship?

Is is simply a technical issue regarding database entries or something (similar in complexity to the old request for separate BPC icons) or UI devs to change the fitting screen? Or are you just holding it back until V3 is done and doing them as separate ships now to simply give people a perception of shiny?

The Drake is a Lie
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-04-11 16:16:30 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Can we get a response as to why you bastards keep making entirely new ships out of these skins instead of letting us have a system that allows for the customization of an existing ship?

Is is simply a technical issue regarding database entries or something (similar in complexity to the old request for separate BPC icons) or UI devs to change the fitting screen? Or are you just holding it back until V3 is done and doing them as separate ships now to simply give people a perception of shiny?
Yes.
Budrick3
Moira.
#10 - 2013-04-11 16:32:33 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Can we get a response as to why you bastards keep making entirely new ships out of these skins instead of letting us have a system that allows for the customization of an existing ship?

Is is simply a technical issue regarding database entries or something (similar in complexity to the old request for separate BPC icons) or UI devs to change the fitting screen? Or are you just holding it back until V3 is done and doing them as separate ships now to simply give people a perception of shiny?
Yes.


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Turelus
Utassi Security
#11 - 2013-04-11 16:40:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Turelus
CCP Nadir wrote:
Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program.

The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following,


  • Quafe Catalyst
  • Intaki Catalyst
  • Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst
  • Aliastra Catalyst
  • Interbus Catalyst
  • Catalyst



STOP WASTING SHIP SKINS WITH PROMOTIONAL SHIPS AND GIFTS!
Make them usable items or LP exchanges in the game and either earn some money (via Nexus store) or create a new ISK sink (via LP)

/me walks off grumbling about wasted opportunities

Xercodo wrote:

Can we get a response as to why you bastards keep making entirely new ships out of these skins instead of letting us have a system that allows for the customization of an existing ship?

Is is simply a technical issue regarding database entries or something (similar in complexity to the old request for separate BPC icons) or UI devs to change the fitting screen? Or are you just holding it back until V3 is done and doing them as separate ships now to simply give people a perception of shiny?


Also +1 to this, as it was nicer wording than mine.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
iskflakes
#12 - 2013-04-11 17:54:01 UTC
CCP Nadir wrote:
Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program.

The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following,


  • Quafe Catalyst
  • Intaki Catalyst
  • Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst
  • Aliastra Catalyst
  • Interbus Catalyst
  • Catalyst




I would love to know why you are re-releasing ships that are in the "Special edition" section of the market. Would it kill you to give us some warning before you destroy rare item collections on a whim?

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-04-11 17:59:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
iskflakes wrote:
I would love to know why you are re-releasing ships that are in the "Special edition" section of the market. Would it kill you to give us some warning before you destroy rare item collections on a whim?
Try explaining why that would help everybody, in a detailed manner please ...

(btw, i'm serious :p)
Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#14 - 2013-04-11 18:03:56 UTC
CCP Nadir wrote:
Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program.

The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following,


  • Quafe Catalyst
  • Intaki Catalyst
  • Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst
  • Aliastra Catalyst
  • Interbus Catalyst
  • Catalyst




stop ruining "limited edition" ships for pathetic promos that nobody gives a **** about. have your buddy program and be done with it, stop intruding into the game just to squeeze more money out of us
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-04-11 18:09:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
What's really wondering me is ...
... where does it say they aren't limited anymore, even if they give out more ?

Companies usually produce a specific number of limited edition items for a specific timeframe ...
... and if they don't run out of stock and sell them again at a later date ...
... it doesn't actually change the fact that they are limited edition items.

No ?


I mean ... i guess a lot of people buy these ships with the buddy program ...
... but that doesn't mean it's THOUSANDS of people ... or ?
iskflakes
#16 - 2013-04-11 18:56:52 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
iskflakes wrote:
I would love to know why you are re-releasing ships that are in the "Special edition" section of the market. Would it kill you to give us some warning before you destroy rare item collections on a whim?
Try explaining why that would help everybody, in a detailed manner please ...

(btw, i'm serious :p)


You're asking why giving people accurate information with which to make their ingame choices would help?

To be explicit (in language even CCP can understand): A new player might see a market section for "special edition" items and believe, as many of us did, that this means the items will not be re-released. This new player might then purchase a ship, only to find it re-released a week later as part of some failed tournament HD stream promotion promotion. This new player would then have lost a lot of ISK, and would quit the game. The new player would then mention to his/her friends that EVE is not a fun game to play.

When it comes to making ingame decisions new players should have the same information available to them as veteran players do. Veteran players know that "special edition" means the ship is neither "special" OR "limited edition", but this is never made clear to new players. This is why we need clarity over what is limited edition and what isn't.

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#17 - 2013-04-11 18:57:22 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
What's really wondering me is ...
... where does it say they aren't limited anymore, even if they give out more ?

Companies usually produce a specific number of limited edition items for a specific timeframe ...
... and if they don't run out of stock and sell them again at a later date ...
... it doesn't actually change the fact that they are limited edition items.

No ?


I mean ... i guess a lot of people buy these ships with the buddy program ...
... but that doesn't mean it's THOUSANDS of people ... or ?

They've always done re-re-releases. Even the Apotheosis, the 5 years of CCP ship, was given out in a number of other promotions over the years. The only ones they haven't re-released are the guardian vex, silver/gold magnates, opux yhat, and at ships. Personally, I wish CCP WOULD release more of all of them, particularly the silver/gold magnates and gv. I have a GV. If more were available I'd be a lot more inclined to take mine out and start terrorizing belts or something. I don't care about ISK... I just want moar ships. Big smile

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-04-11 19:02:32 UTC
iskflakes wrote:
You're asking why giving people accurate information with which to make their ingame choices would help?

To be explicit (in language even CCP can understand): A new player might see a market section for "special edition" items and believe, as many of us did, that this means the items will not be re-released. This new player might then purchase a ship, only to find it re-released a week later as part of some failed tournament HD stream promotion promotion. This new player would then have lost a lot of ISK, and would quit the game. The new player would then mention to his/her friends that EVE is not a fun game to play.

When it comes to making ingame decisions new players should have the same information available to them as veteran players do. Veteran players know that "special edition" means the ship is neither "special" OR "limited edition", but this is never made clear to new players. This is why we need clarity over what is limited edition and what isn't.
The new-player-argument.
I'm sure you're serious here, but that "argument" doesn't help your cause at all ...
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2013-04-11 19:03:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
iskflakes wrote:
Veteran players know that "special edition" means the ship is neither "special" OR "limited edition", but this is never made clear to new players.
Eh no. We know that it means the ship is “special edition” — i.e. not a mass-production item. Even then, I'm trying to remember how many “special edition” DVDs and BRs I have in my bookshelf, and how many others have the same…

The new player easily could and should make the same rough inference.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-04-11 19:03:49 UTC
Gogela wrote:
They've always done re-re-releases. Even the Apotheosis, the 5 years of CCP ship, was given out in a number of other promotions over the years. The only ones they haven't re-released are the guardian vex, silver/gold magnates, opux yhat, and at ships. Personally, I wish CCP WOULD release more of all of them, particularly the silver/gold magnates and gv. I have a GV. If more were available I'd be a lot more inclined to take mine out and start terrorizing belts or something. I don't care about ISK... I just want moar ships. Big smile
DAMN I've ALWAYS wanted to have a Guardian Vexor ! :D
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