Ships & Modules

With pending buffs, Navy Vexor is getting 125 bandwidth for a full flight of 5 sentry drones.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/in-the-navy

Anyone else find it strange that Myrm still can't pack a full flight of sentries? It's always been strange that the Gallante droneboat HAC Ishtar packs more drones than its BC counterpart, now a t1 cruiser joins the rank. In no other race does HAC, much less cruiser, pack more racial weapon dps than its BC counterpart.

It's 5 unbonused medium guns, not comparable to sentries in projection and dps. And it's not as if a t1 cruiser normally have comparable dps as a BC hull.

Myrm's only saving grace is its armor rep bonus, and it's not much these days, as it tanks far better with XtraLarge ASB ('cause it fits) than medium AAR ('cause large don't fit).

Tanking far better with XL-ASB.. NEWS FLASH.. every medium hull using a XL-ASB is going to tank better (briefly) than other tank setups. Should we ignore the fitting for XL-ASB tank to a medium hull does to the rest of configurations? It is brutal. Here is something people glue'd to eft don't realize as well..

Using webs/TDs/SDs/ECM + piloting correctly and so on enhances tanking. If you impact your opponent's dps curve negatively, it is less dmg you have to tank. derp derp.. fitting ewar, easier done on armor tanks.

Sentries on a myrm.. maybe, you should be more thankful the myrm has so many options in its toolbox on the fly than a lot of other ships. It is a swiss army knife of ships.. maybe beyond any other ships short of T3s. How many BCs can claim the myrm strong, sturdy range of APPLIED dps + tank + verstility? If you want a true sentry sniper.. you go Sniper-mega or Sniper-mach.. or go home. The navy vexor is going to be paperthin compared to what already exists on a cruiser sentry platform.. Gila. Christ.. these forums...

Pretty sure it wasn't too long ago that the Myrm was able to field 5 heavy/sentry drones, and was considered a tad too OP, along with guns and a nice tank.

Shame though, as it used to rock, all this mixing med/hvy/light drones for max dps, with various speeds is far too confusing.

Are we sure the Navy Vexor is even going to have a drone damage bonus, or how big it's going to be? Wouldn't be the first "dedicated drone boat" without one.

125 bandwidth and a nerfed damage bonus is actually the design I'd have preferred on the Myrm. Just because I think a ship design where mixing drones provides the most optimal damage distribution is an ugly design.

Right you are. Missed the link in the blog.

Well woah.

Its been normal for all vexor-hull based ships since forever.

Indeed, the Myrm used to be one of THE most used PvP ships due to that. It could easily drop 1K+ DPS while tanking a respectable 600+ with dual MARs. The Vexor/Navy Vexor before/after Tiericide CANNOT tank like the Myrmidon, CANNOT act as a squad booster with a gang mod (or 2), CANNOT field as large a buffer tank as the Myrmidon. That said, CCP has chosen to remake the Myrm in a more support role and the Vexor in a near pure Drone boat role, the bonuses (proposed or otherwise) fit just fine. And sorry to burst the OPs bubble, there are PLENTY of T1 Cruisers that can drop more DPS than BCs. Hell I know of an Enyo fit (no Faction/Deadspace/Officer mods) that can push over 500 DPS with the right Imps and overheated. So just saying that it isn't right that a Cruiser should do more DPS than a BC makes you look ignorant.

I've played on/off since 2006 and the Myrm is my all time favorite go to ship. When I came back this most recent time it was after the role change and tbh it's still not a bad ship. It's not crazy OP anymore, but who cares. You can still get a respectable 800 DPS out of the Myrm with the right skills/Imps.