Missions & Complexes

Ah, The E-Tyrant...

In a game where you can do both, should they be balanced for both?

Dominix has seriously been buffed by DDAs etc over the last year, its not entirely a 1 way street and PVE does in fact occur in missions.

Baking on the omnis though and removing the hybrid bonus removes any reason for the cap booster/armor fit to be used again, as shield fit is no longer fighting against omnis, nor is it fighting against the extra cap use of railguns.

So I don't think there will be any supply of armor PVE pilots, as the forums will soon train everyone coming through to shield fit and projectile arm their dominixes, and rail mega/hypers will likely be as terrible as they always have been.

In a PvP game, where 80% of players do missions or/and mainly do PvE stuff the ships should be balanced around PvE.

99% of player could be doing pve, it's still a pvp game.

The game has to be balanced around PVP, consumption of materials via "big ship" losses is what fuels the EVE economy, it's what makes out mission, exploration and incursion isk, items and LP worth something.

If you balance ships around PVE they wouldn't be used as much in PVP (go check out Marauders stats on any widely used killboard), perhaps meaning less PVP, less grind for the economy and ultimatley less value for PVE players.

Lets try to understand how things work and be less short sighted.

As far as PVE goes, these changes are generally good. A less Crap hyperion, A Domi that can apply drone damage WAY better (at the small cost of a hybrid bonus many domi pilots didn't even use) and a Typhoon with a bonus that makes applying Cruise and Torp Damage much easier (TP+Rigor+typhoon new bonus is going to make it shine in missions compared to the Raven).

Anyone with any sense is lol.

Daniel; I feel the same way sometimes, but I remember flying the damn Maelstrom for an eternity it seemed trying to save up for the Pirate BS. New players are going to have a seemingly insurmountable task trying to access a ship capable of doing PVE with a ship incapable of doing PVE, for both the cost in ISK and training will be to high. And the period it takes to attain these PVE capable skills and ships are possibly to long to keep noobs interested.

Hell some people think PVE is impossible now and they have had years to train for it.

Anyone else think it is odd that we got a drone buff with DDA's, and then a drone nerf with the new AI, essentially making drones outside of rep range useless to any mission or hub runner.

I mean really, thanks CCP for getting drones up to par in DPS, but did you have to make them as useless as breasts on a Boar in the same year.


edit; '**** on a Boar', doesn't work but, 'Breast on a Boar' does LOL

If you give lasers damage selection, who would use anything else? You can change crystals instantly (where as changing ammo/missiles type takes 10 seconds, 5 for hybrids), and lasers never have to stop to reload.

ALL pvp would be lasers so you wouldn't need to carry ammo (leaving more room for captured loot. ALL pve would be laser because even if you made other weapons stronger to compensate, they'd still have ammo costs which lower pve profits etc etc.

This is a really good example as to why EVE ships are and should be balanced for pvp 1st and for most, balancing ships to kill computer generated NPCs leads to ships that real players would abuse, forcing ccp to rebalance stuff all the time.

The only ships that should be balanced with pve in mind at Marauders and Mining ships. Maybe one day ccp could add smaller Marauder type pve ships (call them "Bandits" or something lol).

you mean these 1-2 weeks through frigate 4 -> cruiser 4 -> battleship 4?

if i remember correctly i could afford battleship like after 1-2 months of Eve.....