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Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#101 - 2013-04-09 15:29:20 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Naomi Knight wrote:
Octoven wrote:
What is it like 13-15 tornados to gank a freighter? Thats well over a bill and given charon cost at 1.5ish it cost the 2/3rds the cost of a freighter to gank it...I think that seems pretty fair to me.

fair?
how?
it is an empty freighter , costs more than the ships needed to gank it , how is that fair?


Your error is that you are assuming the game has to be "fair". Roll

And get off this nonsense about empty freighter ganks, yes they happen, but they are rare. Roll


he said it is fair not me, i dont think it is fair at all

game not has to be fair , i agree , but the there should be a limit to it

so even you accept that empty freighter killing happens,
but the punishment for the action is way too friendly toward the gankers
they loose less in isk, the standing loss is an annoyance nothing more , especially after they reach -10 even that is diminshed, they most of time can loot the wrecks ,especially if they at least half as good as they claim to be

pirating should have more effective consequences
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#102 - 2013-04-09 23:54:47 UTC
Naomi Knight wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Naomi Knight wrote:
Octoven wrote:
What is it like 13-15 tornados to gank a freighter? Thats well over a bill and given charon cost at 1.5ish it cost the 2/3rds the cost of a freighter to gank it...I think that seems pretty fair to me.

fair?
how?
it is an empty freighter , costs more than the ships needed to gank it , how is that fair?


Your error is that you are assuming the game has to be "fair". Roll

And get off this nonsense about empty freighter ganks, yes they happen, but they are rare. Roll


he said it is fair not me, i dont think it is fair at all

game not has to be fair , i agree , but the there should be a limit to it

so even you accept that empty freighter killing happens,
but the punishment for the action is way too friendly toward the gankers
they loose less in isk, the standing loss is an annoyance nothing more , especially after they reach -10 even that is diminshed, they most of time can loot the wrecks ,especially if they at least half as good as they claim to be

pirating should have more effective consequences


so the more a ship costs the tougher it should be? why?
an anathema costs more than a cruiser, so it should be tougher?
what about the zephyr? it needs one hell of a buff.
how much do u think a freki costs? u think it should tank a vigil then?

no ship in eve is balanced by its costs. it would be ******** to even think that, seeing that costs are a lot more dynamic than ships stats. just because one thing is more expensive, it does not mean it has to be better at all.

also keep in mind that the gankers are guaranteed to lose their ships. they are not guaranteed any loot, they are not guaranteed to get salvage, or their modules back, they are not guaranteed to not get shot at when they try to scoop the freighter wreck. they are not even guaranteed to destroy the freighter, not if the half wit has taken any precautions.

the risk is very significant to the ganker, and the only person in control of his rewards is the freighter pilot. so start reducing his reward, or start increasing his risk, and he'll find easier targets.

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#103 - 2013-04-10 02:11:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Teckos Pech
Naomi Knight wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Naomi Knight wrote:
Octoven wrote:
What is it like 13-15 tornados to gank a freighter? Thats well over a bill and given charon cost at 1.5ish it cost the 2/3rds the cost of a freighter to gank it...I think that seems pretty fair to me.

fair?
how?
it is an empty freighter , costs more than the ships needed to gank it , how is that fair?


Your error is that you are assuming the game has to be "fair". Roll

And get off this nonsense about empty freighter ganks, yes they happen, but they are rare. Roll


he said it is fair not me, i dont think it is fair at all

game not has to be fair , i agree , but the there should be a limit to it

so even you accept that empty freighter killing happens,
but the punishment for the action is way too friendly toward the gankers
they loose less in isk, the standing loss is an annoyance nothing more , especially after they reach -10 even that is diminshed, they most of time can loot the wrecks ,especially if they at least half as good as they claim to be

pirating should have more effective consequences



Yeah empty freighters once in a while get ganked. BFD, **** happens. This is Eve cry me a river. Punishment...I'm sorry are we playing the same game...the game were people do stuff just to hear people rage about the awfulness of something bad that was done to them? One of the big draws of this game is if you want to play it like your a mean son of ***** bastard you can...and get away with it. Get away with something big and noticable you might even become mildly e-famous.

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