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Requesting all marauder set-ups
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supernova ranger
The End of Eternity
#1 - 2013-04-08 20:05:03 UTC
I'd like marauder set ups from anyone successfully using them and willing to share and what they are used for.
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-04-08 22:13:52 UTC
A L4 mission Vargur fit is a no-brainer imo.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#3 - 2013-04-08 22:34:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Been toying with the kronos, with rails it seems to be pretty good at missions vs guristas and serpentis, and with blasters it could be rather nice for anoms. It does have some advantages over the vindi, mainly the non-gimped targeting range and how easily it tanks kin/th damage. Salvaging BS rats could add some nice extra income to anom runners, too, though it'd get annoying in missions I think.

thhief ghabmoef
Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-04-09 00:10:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Ersahi Kir
supernova ranger wrote:
I'd like marauder set ups from anyone successfully using them and willing to share and what they are used for.


Golem
4xtorpedo launchers w/precision or faction ammo
afterburner
target painter
(hardeners and booster)
4xBCU
torpedo velocity rigs

They're used for non-guristas missions. ECM is a bee-yatch. It's overtanked though, would probably clear faster with a navy raven or a different pirate ship, I just think the golem looks neat.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#5 - 2013-04-09 05:06:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
Used Kronos for incursion sites for a while vg/as/hq/mom sites for testing ship ability mainly compared to Vindicator it failed miserably even with billions invested over basic t2 fitted vindicator.

Used it with both blasters web combo as well as rail platform.it fail at tank dps number dps application over pirate counterpart as well as drone bandwidth ship speed and agility low sig rez.

semi perk it can pull cans from afar can provide limited range cap to basi if needed(VG) in other sites cant fleet is mobile

Current use is shield tank mission boat perform ok i dislike ok performance for supposedly mission focused boat

Kroni

MWD for what ever sig amp for mag stab so you can touch 1000 dps empty high for shield or armor rep depending with who i fly.

Used Vargur for mission as AC boat current use incursions as Arty boat (AC when needed) due to inability to mount proper t2 guns limited pg is stopping this ship true performance to show up.

limited perks it look awesome can tractor stuff limited cap transfer true perk tracking bonus

Not so good, pg is nerfed hard inability to test ship true performance using one of racial weapon types. overall lower dps than counterparts, low hit point=inappropriate tank for fleet operations,low speed,low agility, low drone bandwidth and bay low sig rez.

Machariel perform better overall in dps, applying dps, speed, agility, drones, sig rez and tank.

No pic for Varg it is far out.

I choose to buy redeemer instead of paladin for one of my alts will proly have it soon to take it for the spin(i tend to test ship with marauder 5 and alt have 4) have no desire to operate golem.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-04-09 06:59:51 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Stuff


Heh, funny. Uses Kronos, which is obviously built completely around an armor tank as a shield fit, and is unhappy with performance.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#7 - 2013-04-09 12:40:02 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Stuff


Heh, funny. Uses Kronos, which is obviously built completely around an armor tank as a shield fit, and is unhappy with performance.


your point i don't have issues with ship tank don't be shy link yours if it is so much better

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-04-09 13:15:11 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Stuff


Heh, funny. Uses Kronos, which is obviously built completely around an armor tank as a shield fit, and is unhappy with performance.


your point i don't have issues with ship tank don't be shy link yours if it is so much better


Nicely missed the point. I would agree in a shield fit the Vindi wins. It has the better slot layout for an effective shield tank.

In an armor variety they perform much closer in performance. Given that I have had 2 occasions in VG where a Kronos literally saved the day (Guardian DC's as the fleet enters site), I like having them around.

BTW, a screenshot of your fitting screen isn't showing a "fit".

But here's 2 basic incursion fits. They are very close in performance. Yes the vindi wins on DPS, but only by ~50dps. The Kronos uses half the ammo, and the hull is half the cost of a vindi.

[Kronos, Incursion Standard]

Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Armor Explosive Hardener II

Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
100MN Microwarpdrive II

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Energy Transfer Array II

Large Hybrid Collision Accelerator II
Large Anti-Thermic Pump I


[Vindicator, Incursion Standard]

Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane

Sensor Booster II
Tracking Computer II
Tracking Computer II
100MN Microwarpdrive II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L

Large Anti-Thermic Pump I
Large Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Large Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster II
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#9 - 2013-04-09 15:12:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
some nice fit you got there but lets not go there :)

ok as far as i see u didn't prove any of my points wrong vindi still have more dps even if you tried to compensate with additional dog rig as well as not mentioning drones at all

It still have better application of dmg due to more tracking comes and if you consider that tracking rig it dominate kroni in tracking and dps at range.

it is fast more agile and even without scripted sebo it have better scan rez .

ammo usage and price of a ship will never be performance factors per se also cheap ship often means it suck compared to expensive one...not necessary but often.

Kroni is not only ship that can save the day with spare high slots so i didn't hype them too much but i did mention them.

also if you start to multiply ships say 6-10 Vindicators (not uncommon in highend fleets) gap become ever more obvious.

so i don't believe i was wrong in any of my statements i made even in armor case.

as for the pic what is wrong with it you can see every mod on it and recognise if you play eve online as for specific names..well go and fit your self one..you still didn't link yours but you are claiming mine is bad..what gives?


apologies for spelling errors i hate spell correction and this phone.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-04-09 15:28:42 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
as for the pic what is wrong with it you can see every mod on it and recognise if you play eve online as for specific names..well go and fit your self one..you still didn't link yours but you are claiming mine is bad..what gives?



Never said your fit was bad. I never said the Kronos would out DPS a Vindicator. The only thing I was taking issue was that you claim that it "failed miserably even with billions invested over basic t2 fitted vindicator"

I showed 2 fits that are very similar in terms of bling, mostly T2. And including drones are withing 150DPS of each other.

Yes the Vindicator wins. But not by such a wide margin I would classify the Kronos as a "miserable failure"

And this is only talking incursions.

I guess if anything I have issue with your fit is the basic concept of trying to shield tank a Kronos. They just don't shield tank well, as evidenced by your fit vs a standard armor fit, they both do the same DPS. IMO if you wanna shield tank a Mega hull use a Navy Mega or Vindi.
Ginger Barbarella
#11 - 2013-04-09 16:00:53 UTC
I can't seem to bring myself to burn the training time for BS5... P

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#12 - 2013-04-09 16:40:57 UTC
1500 DPS, the tank has not failed me yet. (lvl 4 highsec)

The Paladin.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/65141-Paladin-Books-Pally2013-retribution-1-1.html
supernova ranger
The End of Eternity
#13 - 2013-04-09 17:26:18 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
1500 DPS, the tank has not failed me yet. (lvl 4 highsec)

The Paladin.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/65141-Paladin-Books-Pally2013-retribution-1-1.html


is your cap booster always on? how much cargo space does your cap take going into a mission?
supernova ranger
The End of Eternity
#14 - 2013-04-09 17:28:30 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
as for the pic what is wrong with it you can see every mod on it and recognise if you play eve online as for specific names..well go and fit your self one..you still didn't link yours but you are claiming mine is bad..what gives?



Never said your fit was bad. I never said the Kronos would out DPS a Vindicator. The only thing I was taking issue was that you claim that it "failed miserably even with billions invested over basic t2 fitted vindicator"

I showed 2 fits that are very similar in terms of bling, mostly T2. And including drones are withing 150DPS of each other.

Yes the Vindicator wins. But not by such a wide margin I would classify the Kronos as a "miserable failure"

And this is only talking incursions.

I guess if anything I have issue with your fit is the basic concept of trying to shield tank a Kronos. They just don't shield tank well, as evidenced by your fit vs a standard armor fit, they both do the same DPS. IMO if you wanna shield tank a Mega hull use a Navy Mega or Vindi.


what drones? is this dps subsidized by sentries?
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-04-09 18:06:06 UTC
supernova ranger wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
as for the pic what is wrong with it you can see every mod on it and recognise if you play eve online as for specific names..well go and fit your self one..you still didn't link yours but you are claiming mine is bad..what gives?



Never said your fit was bad. I never said the Kronos would out DPS a Vindicator. The only thing I was taking issue was that you claim that it "failed miserably even with billions invested over basic t2 fitted vindicator"

I showed 2 fits that are very similar in terms of bling, mostly T2. And including drones are withing 150DPS of each other.

Yes the Vindicator wins. But not by such a wide margin I would classify the Kronos as a "miserable failure"

And this is only talking incursions.

I guess if anything I have issue with your fit is the basic concept of trying to shield tank a Kronos. They just don't shield tank well, as evidenced by your fit vs a standard armor fit, they both do the same DPS. IMO if you wanna shield tank a Mega hull use a Navy Mega or Vindi.


what drones? is this dps subsidized by sentries?



I was called out for using turret dps only. So i threw in ogres for both (since the vindicator has the bandwidth for a full flight of heavies).
Steel Roamer
Southern Baptist Space Warrior Collective.
V0IDLINGS
#16 - 2013-04-09 19:01:00 UTC
If you do not know exactly how they should be fit without a second thought...











... You probably shouldn't bother flying it.
Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-04-09 19:45:24 UTC
Am i the only one who wants to know what a dog rig is?

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
Nnezu
Artificial Memories
#18 - 2013-04-09 20:07:09 UTC
Battleclinic

not every fit is brilliant, but you get a rough idea. They normally post numbers and such right next to it. Apply common sense and you got your ship pretty fast.
Cap James Tkirk
Baba Yagas
The Initiative.
#19 - 2013-04-09 23:28:16 UTC
Kusum Fawn wrote:
Am i the only one who wants to know what a dog rig is?


its when u tie space puppies to your ship
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#20 - 2013-04-10 07:00:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
@ Derath

"Never said your fit was bad. I never said the Kronos would out DPS a Vindicator. The only thing I was taking issue was that you claim that it "failed miserably even with billions invested over basic t2 fitted vindicator" "

I am sorry but i don't think i overstated anything in that sentence and here is why i will focus on one single metric here because i do believe it is showing things good enough...at least to support my claim that i made....for this i went for more fair(because i don't think your was) comparison

Both ship have same amount of mags and same dmg rig vindi will lose ability to fil all rig slots but it is not important this way both ships have dmg(dog :P)rig and single rezist one.

Billionish poor man vindicator t2 mods 1800dps

Failing miserably 13 to 15 billion 1650dps kronos

But i must correct my self adding officer sensor booster just for shy 4.5 billion isk will make kroni scan rez better by whole less than a half second than vindicator..that's huge.

I also agree with you that kroni should be armor tanked purely due to armor rep bonus but it is absolutely not necessary to do it..if anybody have an issue tanking t2 rezist ship no mater what flavor tank is..well maybe it is time to like biomass your self..some mighty awesome 10/10 runners using t2 rezist hulls without booster bonus gizmo are floating around.

Again armor tank on kroni yes been there done that now im not there not doing that :)

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
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